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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2009, 02:15:34 PM »
Only with the DT. Spit8 on internal has longer range than 190d on internal. 190D edges out the spit9/16 a bit, and especially so with the DT added.

I find it rather short-ish range. You can cruise, sure (as you can in all planes) but if it's got less than 30 minutes with full fuel, to me that's "short" (because when you use WEP that goes even faster!)

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2009, 02:22:15 PM »
Yea, I'm a big 190D9 fan, but there are so many limitation to the plane. However, I love the bird since AW1 w/ the 190A8. When AW3 Came out I switched to the D9. Can't help it but to fly it in AHII =)
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2009, 05:09:16 PM »
The D9 has enough endurance if you give up the speed for range by cruising to the fight.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2009, 05:16:47 PM »
That's true of all aircraft.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2009, 05:56:19 PM »
That's kinda scary actually. How do you get to any fights?

I get towed by a P-51D. :lol

were you being serious ?
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2009, 06:00:50 PM »
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2009, 06:02:31 PM »
That's true of all aircraft.
Uh huh.  And all aircraft can afford to lose as much speed as the D9 to still cruise at speeds equal to "average" fighters' top speed.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2009, 06:09:46 PM »
I get towed by a P-51D. :lol

were you being serious ?

Not really ;)
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2009, 06:11:58 PM »
Uh huh.  And all aircraft can afford to lose as much speed as the D9 to still cruise at speeds equal to "average" fighters' top speed.

Yup, it has an impressive cruising speed. Not as good as the La-7, but close.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2009, 08:03:00 PM »
Only reason to take a 190D is the speed and horsepower. Why fly it if you're going to be slow and vulnerable at max cruise?

Don't get me wrong, I'm just playing devil's advocate. If you're going to fly a 190 "slowly" just take either A-model. Only reason for the D is to stay fast (which means staying competitive against late war monsters).

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2009, 08:09:03 PM »
Only reason to take a 190D is the speed and horsepower. Why fly it if you're going to be slow and vulnerable at max cruise?
To save fuel towards flying it uncompromisingly at WEP in the fight.  It's not hard at all to safely cruise to a fight in the MAs.  I've flown the 152 on the lowest engine settings... It's enough to fly to the next base (ie 25-35mi or whatever the standard distance is between two adjacent airfields) on 25% and go home with ~10 kills.  The way home is what's usually tricky.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2009, 09:39:54 PM »
I actually enjoy it. Cruising to and from fights fills the otherwise boring time with some MSFS-ish engine/fuel/speed management.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2009, 12:43:32 AM »
To save fuel towards flying it uncompromisingly at WEP in the fight.  It's not hard at all to safely cruise to a fight in the MAs.  I've flown the 152 on the lowest engine settings... It's enough to fly to the next base (ie 25-35mi or whatever the standard distance is between two adjacent airfields) on 25% and go home with ~10 kills.  The way home is what's usually tricky.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2009, 07:56:42 AM »
Holla! kazaa in a D9, thats a date to remember  :aok

About the range, as moot mentioned reducing RPM and boost to cruise settings is vital for a decent endurance. As i like any bit of speed i never take a DT, so i make good use of reduced RPM and boost.

But what i am most interested in is how the conversion felt to you. Whenever i try a spit i am amazed by the hispanos, but i have big problems with the flight characteristics and never really got used to it. Went so far, that even in low alt field defenses i rather take a D9 with 75% or less fuel than a spit16.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2009, 09:06:39 AM »
All around I found the FW190D9 to be nothing short of a spectacular in the offensive roll and wanted to start kicking myself for not giving it the time of day before.

No doubt the Dora is a hugely capable AC if flown to its strengths.

I personally prefer the A5 because it performs better in a low/slow situation which is, for better or worse, where I typically find myself.