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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2009, 11:38:14 AM »
Truth is that JG26 pilots thought the boost of GM-1 made the 190a8 36mph faster and increased the critical alt with more than 3000 feet, it was a much better airplane than its earlier marks.(source below).

Fw190a8  should be turning close with the a5 model with its increased HP. We have had this  debate before.

AH2 A8 would never have succeeded the A5 if it was IRL, remember that LW at late autumn 1944 JG's almost never fought buffs anymore.

Truth is something is very wrong with either its opponents or the the FM itself of the 190a8.


I can strongly recommend reading "the JG2 26 war diaries" both volumes.

The Il-2 charts are very similar to AH for the A-5/A-8.  Although both are faster at low level than in AH, the altitudes at which the A-8 is faster are identical to AH, as well as the A-5's higher max TAS and critical altitude.

A difference is in RoC, where in Il-2 the A-8 outclimbs the A-5 between 3km and 4.5km.  In AH the A-5 outclimbs the A-8 at all altitudes.

It would seem that the games are based off of two different data sets, neither of which matches the description of an A-8 that outperforms the A-5.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2009, 12:45:28 PM »
Not trying to puff out my chest here, but my K/D ratio for tour 115....
Oh, yes you are. "Look at me, I'm this good at picking and running, my K/D ratio is..."
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2009, 03:02:00 PM »
Don't forget HOing and vultching. :aok



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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2009, 03:04:09 PM »
not HO its bad for the K/D ratio  :D
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #94 on: September 04, 2009, 03:33:01 PM »
not HO its bad for the K/D ratio  :D

Only if you're the one NOT flying a Fw190.

Never HO a 190. You may get some hits, but you'll die 75% of the time or more.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #95 on: September 04, 2009, 04:09:00 PM »
Only if you're the one NOT flying a Fw190.

Never HO a 190. You may get some hits, but you'll die 75% of the time or more.

The radiator in a Dora goes out so easily though.

I admit though, last A8 sortie I had I was cutting across a Spit's turning circle for a crosser shot. He does not profile, jink, does not pass go, does not collect 200 dollars. No, he does what has become a typical guns defense for 50% of Spits in the MA lately, he uses all that available maneuverability for nothing better than to turn directly nose on for a HO with Hispanos. I fed him a 30MM round in the nose and no, I don't feel the SLIGHTEST bit guilty.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2009, 04:16:33 PM »
well if you let the spit do its stuff you are dead in a 190A8...better end the fight quick.


The gunnery in the 190 is a bit odd, as the cannons are not inline with the engines, not on the wings either, so its quite different from the other planes. The trick is to aim higher, Ive sen a few dedicated 190 gunsights that put emphasis on the lower part of the sight. Once you get the feeling the HOs can be won, even if I consider HO's to be a waste of my climbing time.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2009, 04:45:04 PM »
Oh, yes you are. "Look at me, I'm this good at picking and running, my K/D ratio is..."
 :rofl

IMHO just about the only thing that separates a 10 K/D from 100 is luck

Two things:

He flew 5 sorties for that K/D for a total of less than 90 minutes.  Not getting killed for an  hour and a half is not something to tout as exceptional.

With a little luck, even a marginally skilled person can achieve that K/D for 90 minutes, even without picking and running.




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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2009, 07:29:19 PM »
Steve, what have you been smoking? :rolleyes:

I'm sure I flew more then 5 sorties in the 190D9 last tour. :uhoh Check yourself before you wreck yourself.



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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #99 on: September 04, 2009, 07:34:50 PM »
oops misunderstood
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #100 on: September 04, 2009, 08:56:48 PM »
Steve, what have you been smoking? :rolleyes:

I'm sure I flew more then 5 sorties in the 190D9 last tour. :uhoh Check yourself before you wreck yourself.


I was referring to fighter mode. Would be weird to fly a d9 in attack unless you were worried about your fighter score.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #101 on: September 04, 2009, 09:13:28 PM »
lolscore.



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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #102 on: September 04, 2009, 09:17:41 PM »
lolscore.

I'm not saying that's your goal, brutha.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2009, 07:31:42 AM »

I was referring to fighter mode. Would be weird to fly a d9 in attack unless you were worried about your fighter score.

Or carrying a bomb?
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2009, 08:45:09 AM »
I’ve been playing AH2 on and off for almost 5 years now and I could count the times I flew an FW190 model on one hand, ok maybe two. But yesterday that all changed.

I was playing in Orange arena, the map was trinity, the base I was attacking being A1 (Death Valley) and my poor little tank was getting pwned by the armada of IL2s and B25s. I decided to give up the torture and strap into a fighter for some much needed payback. I find myself going into the hanger and browsing through the list for what I would coin as “long endurance fighter”, this means long range, a healthy supply of ammo and most importantly goes like the clappers because we all know A1 can get a little bit fruity. Instantly the P-51D comes to mind but for some reason as I’m scrolling down and I find myself stopping at the FW190D. Now being a Spitfire driver at heart I dislike the FW190D9 with a passion as it’s normally flown very timidly and out of position by other players, but I said what the hell and jumped into it anyway.

To cut a long story short I find myself over A1 with a good number of enemy fighters to dispatch before I could sink my teeth into the abundance of heavy A/C that plagued my GV sorties. Myself and a few other countrymen started with the highest threats and worked our way down. We were outnumbered but had just enough energy advantage to stay alive, it was a slaughter! I don’t think any other unperked ride could have done a better job, what a beast I thought to myself.

All around I found the FW190D9 to be nothing short of a spectacular in the offensive roll and wanted to start kicking myself for not giving it the time of day before.


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