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Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2009, 08:51:42 AM »
Dora, a long endurance fighter?  :confused:

The Dora has just enough internal fuel to fly from here |-----------> to here. I think even the La-7 has a longer endurance on internal.

Good story though :)

throttle and RPM management during level flight both to the fight and on the way home can increase that range considerably while still maintaining enough speed to get away.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #106 on: September 05, 2009, 09:04:06 AM »
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #107 on: September 05, 2009, 09:18:21 AM »
I love the way the Dora handles, however I can't hit anything with the guns? what do you guys set the Convergence to on the Dora?
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #108 on: September 05, 2009, 10:11:10 AM »
I love the way the Dora handles, however I can't hit anything with the guns? what do you guys set the Convergence to on the Dora?
easier to gauge if ya fire only cannons....the hit sprites from the bullets throw ya off, and they don't do much anyway
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #109 on: September 05, 2009, 10:40:27 AM »
I'm not saying that's your goal, brutha.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #110 on: September 05, 2009, 10:48:08 AM »
easier to gauge if ya fire only cannons....the hit sprites from the bullets throw ya off, and they don't do much anyway

Actually the 13MMs on the Dora are decent guns, not like the BBs on the A-5.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #111 on: September 05, 2009, 11:20:51 AM »
Actually the 13MMs on the Dora are decent guns, not like the BBs on the A-5.

Yes, and the muzzle velocities on the 13mm are very, very close to the 20mm, which is all the more reason to fire them together.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #112 on: September 05, 2009, 04:07:01 PM »
I love the way the Dora handles, however I can't hit anything with the guns? what do you guys set the Convergence to on the Dora?

the main problem with all the luftwaffe guns, are poor balistics, most of my kills are done when I cant even see the enemy plane, unless Im shooting a roped plane, or I am on the dead six of an unaware pilot
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #113 on: September 05, 2009, 07:12:32 PM »
Not trying to puff out my chest here, but my K/D ratio for tour 115, in the 190-D9 was 168-9.

Nice plane when you have a wingman, not much you can do in the 190-D9 if you don't.

Yeah, the way I see it, 190s excel at picking and don't really do too much else, and having a wingman flying loose deuce with you is just organized picking. (Not trying to be negative - I view picking as a legit and efficient means to kills).
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #114 on: September 05, 2009, 07:33:16 PM »
Yeah, the way I see it, 190s excel at picking and don't really do too much else, and having a wingman flying loose deuce with you is just organized picking. (Not trying to be negative - I view picking as a legit and efficient means to kills).

but then, you would not fly the 190 to turn fight with a hurrican.  :)
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #115 on: September 05, 2009, 09:07:26 PM »
but then, you would not fly the 190 to turn fight with a hurrican.  :)

Certainly, my point is simply that because you are not looking to turn fight (and really can't), you are left with BnZ pick runs.

And since picking while flying solo is unreliable in the sense that you have to seek out a big fight where the enemy is already engaged with your country-mates, the best way to fly a 190 would be using loose deuce which is essentially organized and consistent picking.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #116 on: September 05, 2009, 09:19:36 PM »
Certainly, my point is simply that because you are not looking to turn fight (and really can't), you are left with BnZ pick runs.

And since picking while flying solo is unreliable in the sense that you have to seek out a big fight where the enemy is already engaged with your country-mates, the best way to fly a 190 would be using loose deuce which is essentially organized and consistent picking.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #117 on: September 05, 2009, 10:16:07 PM »
Yeah, the way I see it, 190s excel at picking and don't really do too much else, and having a wingman flying loose deuce with you is just organized picking. (Not trying to be negative - I view picking as a legit and efficient means to kills).

Once again, 190A5, Nuff said.
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #118 on: September 05, 2009, 10:18:10 PM »
Energy fighting.

I'm no expert, I'm the guy who tried the 190 a few times and got frustrated and went back to 109s. So read the next paragraph with that in mind. If there's anything I didn't know or didn't take into account, feel free to update me. I would certainly like to fly the 190 better if possible.

There are better energy fighters (109s, Spit8, 14, 16). The 190s have a hard time converting their energy into an angles advantage (and by extension a kill shot) because their corner velocity is so high and turn performance degrades so much with speed. E fighting also takes time, which works against the 190s strengths of speed and high snapshot firepower. Seems smarter to make BnZ pick passes than to sit and energy fight them.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #119 on: September 05, 2009, 10:33:56 PM »
D9's are awesome when other friendlies are about :aok
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