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Offline BnZs

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #120 on: September 05, 2009, 10:48:17 PM »
I'm no expert, I'm the guy who tried the 190 a few times and got frustrated and went back to 109s. So read the next paragraph with that in mind. If there's anything I didn't know or didn't take into account, feel free to update me. I would certainly like to fly the 190 better if possible.

There are better energy fighters (109s, Spit8, 14, 16). The 190s have a hard time converting their energy into an angles advantage (and by extension a kill shot) because their corner velocity is so high and turn performance degrades so much with speed. E fighting also takes time, which works against the 190s strengths of speed and high snapshot firepower. Seems smarter to make BnZ pick passes than to sit and energy fight them.



No argument from me, there ARE better energy fighters. Everything out-turns it, and lots of fighters in AHII have a higher thrust/weight. I was just saying it wasn't as completely one dimensional as you make out.

 
 
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #121 on: September 06, 2009, 01:06:53 AM »
No argument from me, there ARE better energy fighters. Everything out-turns it, and lots of fighters in AHII have a higher thrust/weight. I was just saying it wasn't as completely one dimensional as you make out. 

Roger, I was mainly communicating what I felt was the best approach, not trying to take into account everything that is possible. :salute
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #122 on: September 06, 2009, 06:56:22 AM »
I’ve been playing AH2 on and off for almost 5 years now and I could count the times I flew an FW190 model on one hand, ok maybe two. But yesterday that all changed.

I was playing in Orange arena, the map was trinity, the base I was attacking being A1 (Death Valley) and my poor little tank was getting pwned by the armada of IL2s and B25s. I decided to give up the torture and strap into a fighter for some much needed payback. I find myself going into the hanger and browsing through the list for what I would coin as “long endurance fighter”, this means long range, a healthy supply of ammo and most importantly goes like the clappers because we all know A1 can get a little bit fruity. Instantly the P-51D comes to mind but for some reason as I’m scrolling down and I find myself stopping at the FW190D. Now being a Spitfire driver at heart I dislike the FW190D9 with a passion as it’s normally flown very timidly and out of position by other players, but I said what the hell and jumped into it anyway.

To cut a long story short I find myself over A1 with a good number of enemy fighters to dispatch before I could sink my teeth into the abundance of heavy A/C that plagued my GV sorties. Myself and a few other countrymen started with the highest threats and worked our way down. We were outnumbered but had just enough energy advantage to stay alive, it was a slaughter! I don’t think any other unperked ride could have done a better job, what a beast I thought to myself.

All around I found the FW190D9 to be nothing short of a spectacular in the offensive roll and wanted to start kicking myself for not giving it the time of day before.


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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #123 on: September 06, 2009, 10:26:36 AM »
D9's are awesome when other friendlies are about :aok

I noticed you had a good run in one yesterday near base 41.

A8 is good high eny mission plane. Never took out a buff with one so fast as I did in an A8. Good for vulching too but oh lordy don't killshoot yourself.

I've only flown the D9 a couple of times. Seems like a decent plane to me. Has good range, speed, and ammo load.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #124 on: September 06, 2009, 11:09:17 AM »
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and turn performance degrades so much with speed

thats the point of the 190, their turn performance is crappy, but at high speed its way better than most planes, making it very very dangerous on the offensive. The hard part is to convert your speed advantage into alt without being caught, the F4U got the same problem. I believe the solution is to climb at 250-300mph, where the dora can still climb nicely, while the spit for example is almost at max speed. Most pilots will dive under you to stay in contact, but thats where they meet their doom, making your E conversion complete.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #125 on: September 06, 2009, 01:14:52 PM »
I noticed you had a good run in one yesterday near base 41.

A8 is good high eny mission plane. Never took out a buff with one so fast as I did in an A8. Good for vulching too but oh lordy don't killshoot yourself.

I've only flown the D9 a couple of times. Seems like a decent plane to me. Has good range, speed, and ammo load.
I never fly D9's (A8's now and again) Was in a P47N (WERE a lotta friendlies about tho :) ) As I recall, was the first mission in 6 of camp that I either got a kill OR didnt die....some weeks go better than others. The night or 2 before at same base I was pimpslapped repeatedly...( I think Rooks owned it at that time)
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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #126 on: September 06, 2009, 02:50:12 PM »
I never fly D9's (A8's now and again) Was in a P47N (WERE a lotta friendlies about tho :) ) As I recall, was the first mission in 6 of camp that I either got a kill OR didnt die....some weeks go better than others. The night or 2 before at same base I was pimpslapped repeatedly...( I think Rooks owned it at that time)

Well who was I thinking of then?! My error.

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Re: The FW190D9, my new favourite long endurance fighter!
« Reply #127 on: September 07, 2009, 07:13:08 AM »
Or carrying a bomb?
Doras carry bombs? :huh
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