Me-410 a MUST for 1.09

[Tony Williams]

Originally posted by fats:
I thought 20mm is/was listed as MG 151/20 or MG 151/20E and the 15mm as MG 151. Most of the books make no such difference how ever.
// fats

That's the problem.  "MG 151" can be used to mean either 15mm or 20mm (the 20mm version is only sometimes referred to as MG 151/20) but most writers seem to assume that it's the 20mm.  Well, to be honest, most aviation writers might not even be aware that there was a 15mm version (with some honourable exceptions, like Manfred Griehl, who knows what he's talking about).

Tony Williams
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[flakbait]

Willibus, I've seen that rotary rocket firing system. It was never implemented. There was a mockup you've probably seen with that thing fitted. It was a test-bed for the system. Unfortunately it caused far too much airframe damage to be usefull. So the program was dropped shortly after they found it to be too much trouble. Also, the basic fixed armament for an Me-410B I posted above. Not 4 .30 cal MG's, just two. The aft barbette guns were not of the 20mm variety, they were 13mm MG 131's.

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[Jochen]

Tony, do you happen to have images of Mk 103 and Mk 101 30 mm cannon rounds? I have never seen any...

[Tony Williams]

Originally posted by Jochen:
Tony, do you happen to have images of Mk 103 and Mk 101 30 mm cannon rounds? I have never seen any...

Sure - I'll take a pic and post it to you later this weekend (I'm just going away for a couple of days).

Incidentally, the MK 101 and 103 ammo was identical, except that the 101 used a percussion primer, the 103 electric.  Also, the 103 M-Geschoss ammo was loaded down a bit because the gun action wasn't as strong.

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[pbirmingham]

Originally posted by Soviet:
After reading much about the Me-410 today I have to say i really love it.

Personally, I'd rather have some early-war planes.  Specifically:

Aichi D3A "Val"
Nakajima B5N "Kate"
Grumman F4F
Curtiss P-40

and for giggles

Nakajima Ki-43 "Oscar"

Mmmmm.

[Sachs]

Originally posted by Runny:


Personally, I'd rather have some early-war planes.  Specifically:

Aichi D3A "Val"
Nakajima B5N "Kate"
Grumman F4F
Curtiss P-40

and for giggles

Nakajima Ki-43 "Oscar"

Mmmmm.

This is a 410 thread, not a 1942 thread.

[Seeker]

How about that Spit XIV in to AH?

[Karnak]

I would really like to see the Me410B-2 added to AH.  It is a neat looking aircraft and has a ton of loadout possibiities.  It would definately satisfy the German fans' desire for a ground attack aircraft.

[niklas]

Does someone know whether the driving system of the rear guns was hydraulic or electric? I know that the first prototypes were driven by a hydraulic system, but it should be changed to a electric system. But i donīt know how it was realized finally.

thx
niklas