vhere are mein svastikas

[Glasses]

With or without the Swastikas every idiotic Historically challenged person calls the Luftwaffe "those nazi planes".

I'm up for selecting whether to put or not the Swastika on an optional basis on the client side, but it's HTCs decision and well you know, won't say anything about it again.

Denying history is plainly moronic it happened, it's past, we know it did , and we know what it stood for, but for me ,it's just symbol that adds to  the historical Look of the aircraft, as if were, if everything was  offensive then the Japanese would not have been allowed to speak their language nor would the Germans.

Whatever they do,whatever action they take be certain that it would not change either way or  the form the Illiterate look at German Air Force aircraft,nor will they admire,better respect, what they did in times of war even, though they fought not for the "right side"(in context of looking what is morally wrong or right not as a amateur historian)and gave it all to protect their homeland. So they're simply reduced to the losers and the bad guys who shot at grandpa.

back to square one...

[iculus]

The swastika is still used today as a symbol of hate.  It has a modern connotation, and has not yet been limited to the pages of history.  There's no need for such a symbol in a game we enjoy.  Comparing it to other symbols of axis powers is not valid for this reason.

[Archangel114]

We fly planes in this game that were flown by Germany, Japan, Italy, the U.S., Russia, and G.B. Ok, that's great. Now, ladt time I checked, this was a historically based flightsim, not a recreation of WW2 battles, campaigns, and missions. We're here to have fun with planes that most of us will never have the opprotunity to fly IRL. Another thing, there are younger people on here whose parents I don't think would much like it if we had swastikas on all the German planes.

To put it simply, what profound impact would it have on gameplay if we added swastikas to the german aircraft? Nothing other than to eliminate a country from our user base.

My two pesos.

-Chris-

[Fishu]

Who cares about nazi swastikas, give FAF Me109G2 its correct 1918 swastika  

[Seeker]

What Wotan and Westy said. (Hey, at least I'm consistant!)

Plus, I think adding swatstika's to German planes would attract a player type even Grun would be uncomfortable with.

Remember this: according to Hitech's interview, we'll eventualy have an FPS element in AH. That's a whole different social group with a different social dynamic.

I can't wait for the first "my storm trooper is under modelled!" whine......

[Glasses]

Seek so not worry we already have them,the thing is thier dormant.    

[Seeker]

Dormant? Who are you trying to kid?  

[Sachs]

Is it really going to hurt you to see a swastika?  I don't understand some peoples objection to it.  Pretty soon we will have to ban the US marking on planes as it stands for a country of might and global power.  I guess I look into it from a historical perspective, do I care they are not on there?  Nope, do I care if they are on their?  Nope.

[funkedup]

Guys I'm pretty sure it is a legal issue.  HTC want to do business in Germany, so no swastikas.  I think even having the option to turn them on would make AH illegal in Germany.  They'd need to produce a special version for Germans to download.  Probably not worth the time and effort.  Just like no cigarette advertising on some race cars in America.  Every country has their silly laws.

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[Voss]

If this game were wrapped more tihtly with history I would expect to see swastikas. In that it isn't, we don't.

I don't see a problem.

[K West]

"Is it really going to hurt you to see a swastika?"

 Is it going to hurt anyone NOT to see it. Doesn it effect gameplay?  Easy answer. No.

 The basic simple fact is the swastika is a universally hated political and ideological symbol. It is not an military or national insignia like the symbols used on the wings and fuselage of German (as did other countries) aircraft. It was the standard for the Nazi party  <spits on ground after even writing that name> .

 Good thing HTC isn't about to change thier stance on this one.
 
 Westy

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[Dawvgrid]

Actually the swastika is a bit older than the
nazi-parti.
Here in Denmark at the gate to Carlsberg(you know beer),there is a couple of swastikas carved in stone,,,,,,,,in india there`S HOTEL
with a swastikashaped swimmingpool.
The sign is an old symbol(sun ithink),,,,,,,,,but most people
don`t no that.
I should be offended by it,my father was in KZ-camp,,,,,,,,,,im not,couse to ad it on the tailplane is historical correct nevertheless,,,,,,,,,,and we are all tought
to remember the history,,,right?

[Fishu]

Most saddest thing in those swastika things is that I never see in games that real FAF insignia  
Really sad..

Just because that austrian guy had to choose similar item in the flag and later on some law makers wants to forget whole nazi thing as if it never existed and is bad to even talk about.
Meanwhile also banning resembling items........ !

[Wmaker]

Fishu, I don't understand...what is wrong with the current FAF insignia in the 109G-2 featured in AH.    

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[Vphenix]

Arlo

You are either a complete idiot, or just uneducated. Your remarks about people wanting the nazi symbol is plain stupid. You must suffer from paranoia and a lack of knowledge. If you have a such a big problem with the swastika, you better have your head examined.

Im no nazi, my grandparents where killed by them. and my country was invaded by them.

I you judge people who express their wish to have the swastika on planes, you are no better than people who support nazism and other forms of goverment rule that use sensurship as a way to control people.