A dedicated Bomber Command Arena

[FiLtH]

   Create an arena where the sole purpose is aerial combat between an allied bomber force with escorts vs axis fighters. No captures. Somewhat like the AVA but no captures.

   Certain nights of the week people could plan missions, a "Target for Tonight" type thing. The targets would be strat facilities. The object to promote air to air combat at higher alts and not worry about "gettin the goon in!" It would be a cool arena for squads to hold a mission in for their squad nights.

[fudgums]

combat Tour 

[FiLtH]

  Ya thats pretty much what I was thinking.

[33Vortex]

Combat tour was supposed to include so many more features. Perhaps a arena like this is doable. I do not know what map size is the limit but the BoB map is too small to accurately simulate raids into Germany and the Rhine map does not include the channel. For some of us it would be amazing to simulate life-size events even if it is on a smaller scale (not as many aircraft involved) with running battles between bombers trying to penetrate to target and defending fighters trying to pick off as many as possible. Historically the Luftwaffe fighters sometimes did 2 or more sorties against the same bomber mission, if they were lucky enough to escape unharmed it was just to rearm refuel and go up again. This could leave practically the entire Luftwaffe jagdgruppen displaced overnight as they set down on any available airfield after combat.

Anyway, I like the idea. 

[Anaxogoras]

So you want a late war ETO arena?

[33Vortex]

A dedicated late-war ETO arena would be great yes. Don't know if it's what the OP was looking for though. My idea would be like a AvA arena on steroids. I do not know how many and exactly which features were completed before they pulled the plug on CT, but having tools for mission planning and leading flights in the air would be welcome.

One of the basic flaws with AH imo is the setup without countries. The strength of the rook/bish/knit setup is also its weakness. Strip some of the features of CT (include some AI planes/raids to give ppl incentive to log on???), give us a permanent late-war ETO arena without base capturing, perhaps with a rolling planeset, and the LW bunch would have a firm home in this game. The same could be done for the pacific theatre to provide for that crowd. These arenas would instead count strategic destruction rates but only when the number of people in the arena is above a certain mark and on both sides in order to avoid off-hrs dweebery.

The whole strategic and supply system in AH needs to be revised in order to provide the bomber dudes with a wider range of targets. Currently bombing a ammo or radar factory in a MA is a waste of time.


I'm sure someone will take the time to completely trash my ideas. I'm not going to argue if that's the case because what I'm saying is that this is what some of us would like to see in the game and I personally think it would be a fresh breath of air for this game. AH has a lot of potential it's just a matter of what HTC see as worth spending time on to keep customers paying for it and/or gain new customers.

[Guppy35]

   Create an arena where the sole purpose is aerial combat between an allied bomber force with escorts vs axis fighters. No captures. Somewhat like the AVA but no captures.

   Certain nights of the week people could plan missions, a "Target for Tonight" type thing. The targets would be strat facilities. The object to promote air to air combat at higher alts and not worry about "gettin the goon in!" It would be a cool arena for squads to hold a mission in for their squad nights.

I like the idea but I'm not sure how you implement it where numbers would make it viable.  Think about the effort that went into coordinating the DGS scenario with those 17 and 24 raids with escorts vs the LW.  Great fun, but I don't know how you could just up and do it without some warning,

It would be a bit of a let down for the escort guys if no one showed up to oppose the raid

[33Vortex]

If there's a large enough crowd doing it on a regular basis it becomes less of a problem. We'd see squads actually flying in their historical role as escorts, bombers, interceptors etc.

This could draw a lot of interest, we know the FSOs are very popular. If something similar can be organized regularly with less effort it could attract a lot of people, even new people. God knows the FSO crowd is craving for more of the same! 

[FiLtH]

   I was thinking we could put up a mission chart, with dates for each mission, show losses etc. Theres lot of guys who love that stuff. At first Im sure it would be a small crowd, but it would grow if players put effort into it.

[texastc316]

Don't stop. I like where yall are goin

[jdbecks]

or with set objectives for each mission, for example the allies destroy X,Y,Z factories and the axis have to kill x amount of bombers and once the objectives have been met the arena resets to another random map. each plalyer has unlimited lifes also.

you can have alot of varied and different maps, like in the pacific you have to find and sink the other teams fleet etc

[Stampf]

I know 26 guys who would gladly assume the dedicated Axis intercept role, nightly.

Great idea!

[33Vortex]

Ok so did this discussion die?

Nobody really want a good historical arena, are you happy with the dweebery of the AvA setup? A half-arsed attempt to create something to please all, which is impossible. Being a historically based game, one would think that the recreation of historical battles and conditions would interest the crowd. HTC took a major step off that route just by going the rook/bish/knit way, which is a godawful mess if you ask me.

Come on, give the RAF and USAF a Bomber Command and pit the Jagdwaffe against them... it would be a main arena on a epic scale.

[FiLtH]

  Our squad would be in there alot.

[boingg]

Yes  I support this 100%