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Offline boomerlu

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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #240 on: October 10, 2009, 11:03:58 PM »
High K/D doesn't bring you to the front page, only score. The more once concentrates on getting his K/D as high as possible, the less likely it is to find his name on front page.
That's really just a nitpick. I also said "K/D or score" in my original post.

Point remains - this is a game. K/D, score, and whatever other measures of skill don't mean anything unless somebody cares. And that goes for ANY arena, not just the DA. The biggest tangible thing you get for being good is your name on the front page.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #241 on: October 10, 2009, 11:22:34 PM »
Search the threads they asked to have the scores reset , mostly to track improvement in accuracy of shooting http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,254067.0.html theres the link . Show me where they are crying about reset .
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #242 on: October 10, 2009, 11:44:51 PM »
Search the threads they asked to have the scores reset , mostly to track improvement in accuracy of shooting http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,254067.0.html theres the link . Show me where they are crying about reset .
Wow. We're just repeating the same arguments.

"The DA should be for dueling. I remember when you had ROE in the furball lake. <Insert some kind of romanticization of having nice polite rules>"

"Great, but that's not how it is anymore. We like to cut short our time out of battle... <Insert defense of why the current furball lake is legit>"

Why is this such a persistent argument? What's the draw of having ROE in the lake when you could easily establish rules in the dueling fields? Am I the only one that thinks this argument is silly?
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #243 on: October 10, 2009, 11:57:49 PM »
 

It's just that if one brings score and rank in the DA it kind of smacks of 'couldnt get ranked in the MA so made a new rank table'.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #244 on: October 11, 2009, 12:02:35 AM »
Good point. I don't even know if rank exists in DA. :lol I only kept track of K/D for self-improvement purposes.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #245 on: October 11, 2009, 12:13:59 AM »
Indeed, but there again you see that a high k/d does not equal improvement in flying ability if the first thing on the player's mind is getting as many kills as possible. You see how the cycle all leads back to the same conclusion? Getting twenty tempest kills would indicate a larger improvement than earning one decent kill vs a good opponent which clearly is inaccurate.
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« Reply #246 on: October 11, 2009, 12:18:53 AM »
Of course, it all depends on your mindset. And once again, the significane of any type of measurement is in the eye of the beholder. I'm not really arguing this point, we actually agree here. I'm just giving my own viewpoint as to how I treated my K/D.

My mindset towards using K/D as a measurement: I flew to emulate MA conditions mostly. Very rarely did I take out the perked rides. I picked (defined as in killing an opponent who's engaged) but also fought when necessary or favorable. Once I had that above 1.0 and maintained it consistently landing 2-4 kill sorties in 190D9 and 109K4, I stopped caring and focused more on getting into fights and testing the limits.

Surprisingly, my K/D is still above 1.0 there.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #247 on: October 11, 2009, 12:41:52 AM »
Thats your individual case which you show to not have a negative effect on gameplay for others. The overall picture though is that everyone wants a high K/D at the same time, which is impossible, simple math there. It is possible for everyone to have 'good fights' win or lose. It is impossible for everyone to maintain a decent K/d. Flying like a fool and giving some new guy an easy kills is commendable in the DA furball. Give some, you get some.  Just voicing my opinion, not really at you i see, boomer, just using your posts to build a point that, as usual, won't make a tiny difference to anything anywhere  :D
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #248 on: October 11, 2009, 12:49:34 AM »
Getting twenty tempest kills would indicate a larger improvement than earning one decent kill vs a good opponent which clearly is inaccurate.

There are days when I honestly feel like managing a large furball is alot frickin' harder than killing some guy who has been flying for 5 years 1v1...
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #249 on: October 11, 2009, 01:02:21 AM »
True enough batfink.

It IS however possible for everybody to have lower than 1.0 K/D :D. I checked once, the average in MAs was 0.93 when I looked.

Edit: yes, I've also flown like an idiot as well. It can be fun.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #250 on: October 11, 2009, 01:27:25 AM »
The average does not mean everyone gets .93 though!

BnZS that is a very good point. The problem that many describe (not me, i would like to point out, as i have no real problems with the game) is due to the arms race from spitfire mkI at 2k to tempest at 25k.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #251 on: October 11, 2009, 01:47:55 AM »
Of course not everybody gets 0.93. I was just cracking a joke that a lot of us auger :D
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #252 on: October 12, 2009, 01:56:01 AM »
That's really just a nitpick. I also said "K/D or score" in my original post.

Point remains - this is a game. K/D, score, and whatever other measures of skill don't mean anything unless somebody cares. And that goes for ANY arena, not just the DA. The biggest tangible thing you get for being good is your name on the front page.

Someone is keeping a score? Mine can't be good then.

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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #253 on: October 12, 2009, 09:49:42 AM »
Well, none of us ever tried to maintain the pretense that it was an arena purely for dueling.

In fact, if you have ever stopped by once in the last few months and taken a few minutes to look around, you'd see that the biggest attraction is the huge furball.

There's still dueling, but it's at side fields. Donno how many actually duel, but if I'm in the DA, I'm usually open for a duel. And even in those cases, there's no auger for fuel/ammo. Just bail out and get a new plane after each duel so the fuel situation is fair.

I have been there. In fact I was there the other day at a field far away from the lake.... DUELING.

You'd think an arena called DUELing arena would be for ... DUELing.
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Re: Dueling Arena squads disbanded
« Reply #254 on: October 13, 2009, 03:59:50 PM »
I have been there. In fact I was there the other day at a field far away from the lake.... DUELING.

You'd think an arena called DUELing arena would be for ... DUELing.

Dueling Arena =  9 fields I believe low mid and high alt fights 2 bases at each field

Canyon fights = 5 fields I believe not at home so I can't look 3 bases at each field which is basically a canyon furball multiple fighters engaged.

Furball Lake = Furball means according to the dictionary "A large dog fight between groups of fighter aircraft"

Tank Town - 3 bases 4 corners I believe

Boat Fights - same here I believe


Dueling Arena is made up of more then just 1on1 fights.  Dueling is a bad word to use for the Arena anyway, I think of it as more of a variation arena or diversity arena. 


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