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Offline waystin2

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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #90 on: September 29, 2009, 03:19:50 PM »
There was a time when I supported changing the WW's ENY, but never to perk it.  I no longer support that since the turret slow down in the recent patches.  There is even less of a reason to perk it now.  I truly suggest staying away from them Oak.
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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #91 on: October 10, 2009, 03:10:47 AM »
So you drove WWII era tanks? May I suggest that the sights were a little more primitive than what we use now.
Man such sarcasm .  My point exactly is they are more crude . We cant do it now . The experimental AA tank round failed miserably to even hit choppers . Not because of round but optics . Now you think it thru and decide what that tells you ,when compared to WW2 optics .Hate to tell you this buddy but yes I have driven WW2 era tanks . The best question to ask is "have you gunned WW2 era tanks" .  :aok BTW they were an M-26 Pershing and an M4a3e8 . Got some great pics too ! Only got to gun the Pershing .
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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #92 on: October 10, 2009, 03:11:55 AM »
Incorrect, sir. It DID happen in WWII.
Source !!!!

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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #93 on: October 10, 2009, 03:14:35 AM »
So what do you propose?  

I have seen it mentioned that the main gun optics incorporated a focussing mechanism. When the target was in focus, you had a pretty accurate distance to target by looking at the sight meter ( much akin, I would surmise, to the distance marks on a camera lens).  

So.. the image through the gunsight would have to be blurry until you focused the sight to remove the blur.  Even while not in focus, however, the target would be a blur of some type ( unless well hidden with skin and ground effects ).  As long as this blur exists, the gun can be pointed at it.  Unless you're talking about extreme ranges, the target won't be transparent.

So.. we've got a gunsight that calibrates distance based on focal point.  Oh goody.  Now, when I see an aircraft coming at me, I'm going to swing around.. get him in the sight, set my calibration to 400 yards and wait for him to almost be in focus.. fire.. and, suddenly, my AA accuracy has increased exponentially.

Now.. that may be complete malarkey. Sounds plausible to me, however.

Bottom line.. don't fly down the barrel of a tank.

<edit>  After consideration.. how pronounced would the unfocused blur be? I'm recalling how my macro lens can't pick out details enough to discern a target until the focussing mechanism gets close.  How fine are the optics of a tank sight?  If they are as sensitive as camera lenses, it may be a  challenge to even find a GV in the clutter.  
I am not stupid , I don't fly down the barrel after I learned what they could do in here . OK lets look at what you say about seeing the plane focusing etc . What would happen is TC would say gunner ,target 109 give a direction to of target and how high he wants you to elevate . The gunner swings his sights and would say cannot identify over and over .so it matters not if the plane gets in 400 meters range does it ? If the optics have too limited a field of view and turret is too limited to track target in either traverse or elevation tell me how should you be able to do it ? You all completely ignore acquisition by the gunner . also ww2 tanks used simple lines or triangles to denote range/target size . I think you are thinking of a stereoscopic sighting system all WW2 tanks used monocular sights .
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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #94 on: October 10, 2009, 11:49:40 AM »
... OK lets look at what you say about seeing the plane focusing etc . What would happen is TC would say gunner ,target 109 give a direction to of target and how high he wants you to elevate . The gunner swings his sights and would say cannot identify over and over ...


Well.. here's a case of gameplay vs. reality.  You have to allow that a single person can perform all the fire control functions.  You don't have the communications step between the positions. 

Are you wanting to require that each tank have at least 2 people operating it?

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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2009, 02:12:12 AM »
Well.. here's a case of gameplay vs. reality.  You have to allow that a single person can perform all the fire control functions.  You don't have the communications step between the positions.  

Are you wanting to require that each tank have at least 2 people operating it?


The point is the optics were incapable of acquiring the target let alone track it . Still waiting for DC to give a source on where a Tank shot down a plane with main gun .

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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2009, 08:33:26 AM »
A plane in flight?
They call it "common sense", then why is it so uncommon?

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Re: Perk it!
« Reply #97 on: October 20, 2009, 11:18:50 PM »
So he says . I guess by the lack of response my point is made .