What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[Masherbrum]

Not the best looking car I've seen though...


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I never mentioned "looks".   But again, narcissists will ALWAYS find a way to distort facts already presented.   

[Die Hard]

Yes, because looks play no part what so ever in people's decision to buy a car. I don't think the Japanese have much to be worried about.

[Masherbrum]

Yes, because looks play no part what so ever in people's decision to buy a car. I don't think the Japanese have much to be worried about.

 

[eagl]

I was also in the position a couple of years ago, trying to decide whether to get a Z06 or a used porsche.  I know guys at work who have those cars (some have vettes, some porsches) and I was seriously considering looking for a slightly used '07 Z06 or a 3 year old carerra 4...

Instead I got a baby boy, and recently bought a nice sensible 4-door sedan to replace my firebird.  I couldn't resist though, so instead of a sensible chebby malibu or something like that, I got a pontiac G8 GT.  361hp on 87 octane.  People are getting 290-300hp at the wheels bone stock on 87 octane, and over 340 with nothing but a cold air intake and ECM tune for 93 octane gas.  And that's just the 6.0L GT...  The GXP model is running a full-up LS3 motor putting out well north of 400hp, still on 87 octane.

Yea it's a 4-door sedan but it's nearly as quick as my firebird and it handles better, even considering that it weighs almost 800 pounds more.  My first mod will be a trailer hitch   I'm going to hold off on the airbox and ECM/TCM tune until I'm positive I'm not going to need powertrain warranty work, maybe in a couple of years.

[Bucky73]

One of my good friends had a 06 Fusion and he fell asleep coming home from work 2 weeks ago to the day. He took out a bridge rail and flipped and rolled every way you can think of before launching across a 30 foot wide creek and smacking the other side. That car is MANGLED and he walked out of it with a TON of stitches and a broken collar bone. I will post picks when I get them off of his facebook tomorrow. That car saved his butt!

[DJ111]

One of my good friends had a 06 Fusion and he fell asleep coming home from work 2 weeks ago to the day. He took out a bridge rail and flipped and rolled every way you can think of before launching across a 30 foot wide creek and smacking the other side. That car is MANGLED and he walked out of it with a TON of stitches and a broken collar bone. I will post picks when I get them off of his facebook tomorrow. That car saved his butt!

But...it's not the best looking car some people have seen though...

[Reaper90]

See Rule #4

[RTHolmes]

OK, so half of my "conspiracy theory" is not plausible, but that still doesn't explain why the $70K Vette is being compared against the $130K Porsche and not the $70K Porsche. But it's a European car show doing the test, and they just hate the thought of an American :gasp: car beating up on their precious icons....

you need to bear in mind price differences too, in UK:

Z06 £60k
911 £60k
911S £70K
911GT3 £80K
911T £100K
ZR1 £110K
911GT2 £130K

resale on 911s is very strong, vettes drop like a stone over here so for us 911s are much better value. cheaper servicing doesnt come close to negating the depreciation. in fact when the economy is strong you can drive a new 911 for next to nothing.

Food for Thought:
The European roads are like night and day compared to U.S. roads. Living in Germany for five years and driving not just the autoban but Southern France, Spain, Switzerland, etc. The Viper first and foremost would be idle at gas station after gas station in many European countries while in the mean time the Porsche would be damn near to Russia  . Another problem the Viper would have is just staying on the roads. Being that it is wider than most and tractions due to over abundance of Hp at the rear wheels driving the Viper on a daily basis would be much more of a job than a dream. European cars are engineered to handle the European roads, which can be plopped down in the U.S. and have relatively no problems acclimating. Unfortunately the same is not said about taking Vipers, Shelby'z, etc. to European Countries.
I am sure the muscle car diehards will probably put a price on my head, but having a 5.0 in Germany in the late '80s proved that trading in that Mustang for a Porsche was a smart move..

[Skuzzy]

True but nobody denies that all German and Italian cars are expensive to work on. <snip>

You are the one that said long term cost of ownership of a Porsche would be less than a Corvette.  I was giving a simple example of why that cannot be true.  Brake job intervals for a Porsche almost mirror those of the Corvette.

While talking to Porsche, ask them about the engine rebuild schedule for any of their air cooled engines.  Yes, they do have to be rebuilt at specific mileage intervals or you risk destroying them.  Then ask how much that costs.  The Corvette will easily go passed about 2 air cooled Porsche engine rebuilds.

[CAP1]

Yea it's a 4-door sedan but it's nearly as quick as my firebird and it handles better, even considering that it weighs almost 800 pounds more.  My first mod will be a trailer hitch   I'm going to hold off on the airbox and ECM/TCM tune until I'm positive I'm not going to need powertrain warranty work, maybe in a couple of years.

we have a couple guys running round here in mercury marauders here. one's stock. it's suprisingly fast. the other dude took his out to Michigan, to a place that speciliazes in these cars. they added a supercharger, took out the highway gear(2.78) and put in a 3.73. re-flashed the EEC for the supercharger..........THAT one is stupidly fast. i got to drive that one, and it was beyond impressive for a sedan that weighs 4k.
 his mileage didn't go down with this work, he could haul his family in it easily and safely(he left the child seat in the back when he took it to the track).
 they're actually good looking cars too.

[uptown]

I'd just buy a truck  

[Masherbrum]

we have a couple guys running round here in mercury marauders here. one's stock. it's suprisingly fast. the other dude took his out to Michigan, to a place that speciliazes in these cars. they added a supercharger, took out the highway gear(2.78) and put in a 3.73. re-flashed the EEC for the supercharger..........THAT one is stupidly fast. i got to drive that one, and it was beyond impressive for a sedan that weighs 4k.
 his mileage didn't go down with this work, he could haul his family in it easily and safely(he left the child seat in the back when he took it to the track).
 they're actually good looking cars too.

My guess would be either Roush here in Livonia or Livernois Motorsports.    

I've always liked the Marauders.   

[Die Hard]

Excellent rebuttal! Sure won me over with that one. 

[CAP1]

Excellent rebuttal! Sure won me over with that one. 

want something to impress your clients/customers?


the merc dude!!

fast(for a 4k pound car), good looking, decent handling, and not stupidly expensive. it won't even come close to comparing to the vette, or the porsche in performance.......but it'll handle more than what you'll ever ask it to do in the real world of street driving. 

[Masherbrum]

Excellent rebuttal! Sure won me over with that one.  

You aren't worth the time and effort.   You're still wrong though, just live with it.