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Offline Stott

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Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« on: September 01, 2009, 12:27:43 PM »
I just saw this at mmorpg.com and linked to their site..They have some beta shots of variable weather, and lot of new terrain and...finally ..Rag Doll deaths on their infantry. I always get soem grief posting about them but you have to give credit where it is due. The videos really look good.


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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 12:46:44 PM »
Fun game if you hook up with a squad for the ground game but the flight modeling still sucks (has since game launched) and I doubt that portion will ever improve.


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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 01:25:36 PM »
It has it moments. They did find some error with their rudders that was inputting too much and the yaw seem much better. I think they have done something to inertia that is different from AH. The difference to me is subtle between the two sims so I cannot give either up. Their ground war always draws me back

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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 03:58:50 PM »
Fun game if you hook up with a squad for the ground game but the flight modeling still sucks (has since game launched) and I doubt that portion will ever improve.

This is at the very least "laughable" when you consider the number of people on here (including and majority of which, being vets) that post or comment in game all the time about crappy flight modeling.

I personally believe the modeling in here, though not perfect, is pretty good. I also dont believe the modeling in WWII is too far off.

The biggest problem with WWIIOL, from what I seen and from what many squaddies have told me over time, has nothing to do with the game itself. Instead is has everything to do with the subscribers. They unlike AHII didnt get the rollover of core vets from AW or WB by proxy of timing.

This is what makes me laugh even harder when I hear people including HTC suggest that the game survives because everytime a player leaves a new one takes his place, or that the children are the future. Guess what, thats why games like WWIIOL arent thriving, because thats their core. If you lose your vets and replace them with "the future" then you will have nothing more than transcient mediocrity.

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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 04:52:35 PM »
  I went to WW2OL after AW died. Played for 3 years putting up with alot of problems. Patch 1.4 or so was about the best the airwar was for me. Later patches killed it. I made it to Brig General in the Luftwaffe in there before I left. Since then I guess they trashed all rank and have some brigade spawn stuff now.

  The thing that bothered me the most, not so much with the airwar, but with the ground war, was that you could only see so many enemy at 1 time, even though the guy you cant see,sees you and kills you. Air battles dont seem so affected by that due to speed and ranges.

   I doubt I'll ever try it again, but who knows.

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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 09:46:37 AM »
I can say from when I started 4 years ago, this game has come A LONG WAY. Both with better graphics and effects. They have updated their servers a few times and the lag problem has decreased ALOT, but however, like any other online game, it will always be there.

The rats released some videos of the new 1.31 version with new terrain, sounds, weather (YES RAIN!), and rag doll effects for the infantry.

The videos can be found here at youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpPIBvZEwuc&feature=related
(Ragdoll effects/new gun sound effects)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPsMuEX4E_U&feature=sub
(an overview of 1.31)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB76DZM2uFg&feature=related
(Weather in flight from a spitfire)

IM EXCITED FOR THE RELEASE!

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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 09:54:06 AM »
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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 01:40:40 PM »
In 2002 I made a fake screenshot of rain effect. That was when I made other fakes as well, but the rain one finally did it and got told to slow down :D


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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 01:55:39 PM »
Does this game require a subscription?
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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2009, 02:46:04 PM »
I like the weather.  WW2OL never worked well on my old computer, I should redownload it and see how it plays.
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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2009, 03:03:46 PM »
Does this game require a subscription?

It used to require a subscription and a Cray computer to run it.

Regarding  this title, it should have been "For all 10 of you who used to play WWII Online..look.."  :x 

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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2009, 06:15:03 PM »
I've played it on and off since release, back in 2001. Until they work out a way of tracking bombs and their effects when you can no longer see them on your client, I won't play. At the moment, you can hit infantry with HE, but unless you can see them from your bomber (i.e. you are level bombing at a ridiculously low altitude), you don't register the hits. I only figured this out after a few weeks of bombing heavily congested towns and killing nothing. Very frustrating. The rest of the air combat was average at best.

The infantry modelling was pretty poor to be honest, even for 2001. It was so clunky compared to games such as Red Orchestra (which is still superior in terms of infantry modelling, and that's a 2006 game).

WW2OL was a fine concept. In my experience it has never delivered what was promised and I expect that you will need a Cray II to run the Unity II upgrade.
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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2009, 08:41:14 PM »
I don't think I've played since 2002 or 2003. I was one of the 2nd group of beta testers.

I eventually got it running okay, but I quit fooling with it, even when I had a free subscription for being a beta tester.
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Re: Curious...You guys seen WW2OL..Beta Rag Doll and other stuff?
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2009, 08:58:51 PM »
I've played it on and off since release, back in 2001. Until they work out a way of tracking bombs and their effects when you can no longer see them on your client, I won't play. At the moment, you can hit infantry with HE, but unless you can see them from your bomber (i.e. you are level bombing at a ridiculously low altitude), you don't register the hits. I only figured this out after a few weeks of bombing heavily congested towns and killing nothing. Very frustrating. The rest of the air combat was average at best.

The infantry modelling was pretty poor to be honest, even for 2001. It was so clunky compared to games such as Red Orchestra (which is still superior in terms of infantry modelling, and that's a 2006 game).

WW2OL was a fine concept. In my experience it has never delivered what was promised and I expect that you will need a Cray II to run the Unity II upgrade.

They did fix the tracking back in early 08, as long as your still in the world it will track even if you cant see the bombs. I level ABs all the time with 111s and register 15 kills on average, bombing from 6 and 7K
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