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Offline Jigster

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2001, 07:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2001, 07:37:00 PM »
Oh and if one of the German Assault guns HAS to be done, at least insist on a StuH or a Brumbar, so at least it would have a different (and more effective) gun.
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Offline Rendar

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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2001, 07:46:00 PM »
OK...so how about this:

T-34/85
Panther G
Jagdpanther (late-model)
Sherman Firefly

All of these vehicles have their pros and cons.  For example, the Firefly has a big gun, its fairly fast, but is has little armor.  The Jagdpanther is as fast as the Panther, has more armor than the Panther, but can be ambushed from the rear.  The Panther G and the T-34/85 are good all-around.


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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2001, 08:32:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Jigster:
Oh and if one of the German Assault guns HAS to be done, at least insist on a StuH or a Brumbar, so at least it would have a different (and more effective) gun.

A brummbar? for what?...man, that was a street fighting mass of steel, wich almost no cross country capability and slow as hell. THe 150mm howitzer was good for shredding buildings, yes, but the lack of mobility of that thing would make it unplayable in the current AH maps.

As an assault gun the StuG42 is perfect. Good mobility, good armor (slightly better than the PzIV's),and a good gun (A 105mm howitzer with decent anti armor capability and very good HE capability).

But I agree that we need more tanks first. A Sherman, a T-34/76 and maybe even a Cronwell (sp?). Then assault guns, or better yet, self-propelled artillery (someone said "Hummel"? or even Maultier?   )

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Offline Rendar

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2001, 01:14:00 AM »
StuH 42 would actually seem more useful in AH, as we could sure use some artillery.  Here is some stuff about the StuH 42 (taken from Achtung Panzer):

   

In October of 1942 Sturmhaubitze 42 was produced by Alkett, its design was based on Stug III Ausf F and F/8's chassis and it was armed with 105mm StuH 42 L/28 (L/30) howitzer. From 1943 onwards StuH 42 was built on Ausf G's chassis. From October of 1942 to February of 1945, 1212 StuH 42s were produced. In May and June of 1943, 10 of retired and battle damaged Stug III Ausf F/8 were converted into flame-thrower tanks armed with 14mm Flammenwerfer. They were designated as Sturmgeschutz III (Fl). From of 1943 to January of 1944, all Sturmgeschutz III (Fl) were used for training in Germany, while from January to April of 1944 all were rearmed with 75mm StuK 40 L/48 guns.

In 1944 and 1945, small number of Stug III Ausf Gs were converted into (75mm/105mm rounds) ammunition carriers by the removal of the gun and covering the opening with a piece of armor plate. Those vehicles were known as Munitionspanzer auf Fahrgestell Sturmgeschutz III Ausf G / Munitionpanzer Sturmgeschütz III Ausf G.

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2001, 10:20:00 PM »
 
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My point is that it would be 90% identical in a game sence to the panzer IV. Why spend time modeling it? The Sherman M4A3-75 and the T34-85 are waiting....

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 Riiight, and that would also explain the A5,A8,F8, the soon to be 3 types of Thunderbolts,G2,G6,G10 etc.

 I personally would like to see tanks like the T-34/76,T-34/85, SU assault guns, M3 Lee etc.

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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2001, 06:09:00 PM »
Well I guess you told me tronski...
So you would like a game with the only fighters being a SpitIX and Spit VIII ?
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Offline Rendar

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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2001, 08:50:00 PM »
Don't forget the Panther...it needs to go with the T-34/85.

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2001, 09:55:00 PM »
Yup. The panther would be a great perk tank once the T34-85 is arround as a non perk soviet tank.
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Offline -tronski-

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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2001, 10:57:00 PM »
Actually pongo i was being sarcastic.

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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2001, 08:33:00 AM »
Why dick around, introduce the damn Tiger tank.  That or the Panther are the only extra tanks I would waste time making for the Germans.  Dedicated field arty is otw, so says HTC, so lets wait and see what they bring!
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Offline Rendar

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2001, 01:59:00 PM »
Tiger II would need to have a counterpart...M26 Pershing maybe?

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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2001, 07:40:00 PM »
When you look at the ranges we are attacking vehicle to vehicle now, I would think we have M1a's and T80's.  We shoot at each other with great effect from up to 2,000 yards!  WWII tanks would not have dreamt to engage at those ranges because they would have no chance of damaging each other.  Most engagements happened under 500 yards.  Hopeful this will be one of the things that they are working on in 1.07

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Offline Rendar

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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2001, 02:00:00 AM »
Just so you know, the IS-2 could kill a Tiger II from 1 km away.

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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2001, 08:43:00 AM »
There are claims of 3k plus tank kills from ww2.

I would certainly take my chances in a long range gun duel in a kingtiger vs an Is2.
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