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Offline RTHolmes

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solution for massive NOE raids
« on: September 02, 2009, 04:08:02 AM »
noticed a few massive NOE raids yesterday, and whereas a small raid is defendable at the last minute, 8 sets of buffs with 12 fighter escorts really isnt. A solution occured to me, whadya think?

Max of 8 aircraft NOE per sector, any more than 8 show up on darbar. eg. 9 aircraft NOE shows as 1 aircraft's worth of darbar. 20 shows as a full darbar. Why 8? Its more than enough for a sneaky capture.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 04:24:44 AM »
It sometimes sucks that huge NOE raids occur I will admit. For the few times it happens over the course of 24 hours I would say leave well enough alone.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 05:52:42 AM »
well placed warblewinds, some fast canon rides, and watching map for blinking bases can blunt noe raids.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 07:03:11 AM »
well placed warblewinds, some fast canon rides, and watching map for blinking bases can blunt noe raids.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 07:07:02 AM »
Sounds a lot like a "solution" in search of a "problem".
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 07:31:53 AM »
 If you want to just bomb outhouses and toolsheds into smithereens with no
opposition then why bother even playing online?

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 09:03:25 AM »
noticed a few massive NOE raids yesterday, and whereas a small raid is defendable at the last minute, 8 sets of buffs with 12 fighter escorts really isnt. A solution occured to me, whadya think?

Max of 8 aircraft NOE per sector, any more than 8 show up on darbar. eg. 9 aircraft NOE shows as 1 aircraft's worth of darbar. 20 shows as a full darbar. Why 8? Its more than enough for a sneaky capture.



wo wo wo wait up a sec, are you trying to say that because people take advantage of the limited radar capabilities you want to eliminate that factor!?


Are you insane sir?

Really now, NOE captures have been here since the beggining of time, in WWII planes would fly below radar to not be dectected, and now you say...well since its undefendable if its more than 8 planes, we should be able to see the rest because you know...well just because.

Suck it up, its not the enemies fault for taking advantage of limited WWII Technology  :devil and using it to their advantage....its sounds alot like what war is, and thats exactly  what this is.


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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 09:31:16 AM »
I rarely fly in noe missions these days,like a hi alt fight. Those who whine about noe being about avoiding the fight, are usually found running from a 1v1 co-alt fight in their 'stang.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 10:34:44 AM »
The solution for massive NOE raids is vigilance and a hoarde of your own.  :rolleyes:

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 10:36:07 AM »
I've been a part of some of the most massive one's and they are not always successful, so apparently they can be defended against. Maybe it would be better to develop a quick strike NOE defense force.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2009, 10:39:02 AM »

i can click on a pony to make him explode.


Now there's a worthwhile request in of itself. Saturday was on and watched a Pony kill a couple guys on the CV (including one of my squaddies) with a bomb, then ran all the way home on the deck just to get his name in lights. Didn't do a shred of fighting otherwise, just dropped his egg and ran RIGHT home because nothing could catch him.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2009, 11:38:53 AM »
You dont fly NOE raids "needing" to capture anything. Mostly you fly them to hang out with a group of other enthusiasts you have come to know and banter on a pvt channel. Its really no different then a raid where you come in high and keep piling on. Besides theres normally an enemy con waiting for you in his Typhie with 2,000' on you. :uhoh And if since radar was created air forces have tried to fly in its clutter so there is no real historical block to them.

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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2009, 12:07:37 PM »
"massive" NOE raids are usually detected because there will always be on that will break the radar base altitude. The more massive it is, the more it is likely to happen.
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2009, 01:14:47 PM »
The only solution some of our massive noe raids is to take cover and hope the autoack can hold us off  :devil    Ive been part of some great noe takes and it is alot of fun i see no reason you just cant get in your whirble and hope for the best :noid
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Re: solution for massive NOE raids
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2009, 02:08:46 PM »


wo wo wo wait up a sec, are you trying to say that because people take advantage of the limited radar capabilities you want to eliminate that factor!?


Are you insane sir?

Really now, NOE captures have been here since the beggining of time, in WWII planes would fly below radar to not be dectected, and now you say...well since its undefendable if its more than 8 planes, we should be able to see the rest because you know...well just because.

Suck it up, its not the enemies fault for taking advantage of limited WWII Technology  :devil and using it to their advantage....its sounds alot like what war is, and thats exactly  what this is.


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Low level bombing mission.  But hey, someone spotted the hord comming.  Imagine that.

The whole "dar bar" explaination has been, "someone spotted the planes flying over".  Why wouldn't this also hold true for a hord of low level aircraft, or a cv group parked 5k yards off a base for that matter?


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