Fix the 109(s) cockpits.

[Nath-BDP]

Whats up with the cockpit of the 109, is it like this on purpose to lesson the field of view for superior LW pilots? Conspiracy!  

 

 

 

Now for real pics...

 

 

 


The 2 bars in the front of the cockpit should go straight down, not curve in and be farther away from each other, this realy hampers the field of view for gunnery.

[Nath-BDP]

   

Btw why is there the bulge behind the cockpit for MW 50 in the G6? I thought ours was a version without MW 50 (even though the paint scheme is that of a Bf 109G14/AM of Erich Hartmann.  AM = DB 605AM that was designed for MW 50 use.) All the 109 variants in AH have this.

   

p.s. still missing the extended tailwheel on G10.

   

   

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[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 11-16-2000).]

[GRUNHERZ]

Hi

Nath is right on this they should be parralel and afford a somewhat wider view than we have now.  
 
 Not all G10 had the tall tail wheel, most actually had the short wheel, as the G10 was a rebuild of G6 and G14 planes, and it wouldnt help as it did in RL as 109 groundhandling is fine in AH. I rather have HTC fix the cockpit view issue than that.

thanks GRUNHERZ

[juzz]

You think it's bad now? You should have seen the original Me 109 cockpit!

[Nath-BDP]

Look at the two last pics, the real life plane that ours is modeled after had the extended tailwheel... did ya miss that?

[SkViper]

Nath, you must be kidding!
Look closely at your pictures!
The field of view in the REAL 109 was worse than that of the AH 109!
The glass on the front was some 8 inches tall!
Hell, look at your picture, its smaller than the pilot's head!
Your comment about straight down...they do on both your Real Plane and AH Plane pics!

I think they should shorten the AH window and put the 45° cross posts in the rear of the frame.

Being that you have killed me 1-2 times with your 109, I know you like it, but what the HELL are you asking for?  More visibility on a plane that is already modeled with more visibility that the real thing?

Did you get shot in the bellybutton at 40K or something?
Honestly, your words don't match your pictures!

SkViper

[Nath-BDP]

Hey!
I don't understand what you're trying to say!
Explain better!
Look!
Thanks!

[SkViper]

Are you asking them to enlarge the AH plane viewing area?
If so, then it is you that needs to review your own pics.

The real 109 has a very small front glass!
The field of view was very limited!

SkViper

[Nath-BDP]

   

this is what im asking to be straighted. they should be vertical not pointing inward.

[SkViper]

You ever stand on a railroad track and look out toward the horizon at them?
If you have, then you notice that they appear to come together in the distance.
This is why they look bent in the straight on view.
It is a visual effect that IMHO is VERY well modeled in AH!
Take a look at the 4th pic down in your original post. You can see the same effect there. Hell, you can even measure the difference between the top and bottom on the screen!

I think HT and gang have done an EXCELENT job!

SkViper

[Nath-BDP]

k forget you obviously know nothing about this game.

[Gman]

16 bit EW!

Haha Nath.

<cussword>

[Jigster]

PSSSSSSST! It's called perspective.

Notice how the pilot has to look through the gun sight (where the AH views are centered)

It's not in the dead middle of the dash, and while you don't really get the impression, the frame appears to bend in (I assume anyway) because of the proximity of the pilot's face to the wind screen.

While AH is not capable of emulating a pilot focusing on various objects in his field of vision (zoom kinda works though)...it keeps everything within the set view in focus (and appears that the center of the screen is the main focal point, and the gun sight is the a good example)

Notice how the gun sight stays to true dimensions, but how the things surrounding it can be distorted...canopy frames, wings, dash, etc that increase the further away from the center of the screen and from the distance to the object (wings get very distorted in front left and right quarters)

It seems very relative to real life distortion of images outside of focus...the further away from what your focused on the more it seems to slant in. If ya don't believe it, try it...

I think thats what AH tries to emulate.

Oh well, makes sense now, prolly won't later.

[Jigster]

 

Okay so they are a little bent, but it's there.

[StSanta]

Yep the same 3d perspective thingy makes the rails or bars in the 190 unproportionally large and obscuring. But seen from the outside they're 100% right.

Just the limits of 3d software, unfortunately.

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