Fw 190F-8

[Jochen]

Just to make sure this bird does not get forgotten...

Lufwaffe does not have decent attack plane yet. Ju 88 is excellent tactical bomber but it cannot do ground attacks. We dont have Stuka divebomber or twin cannon tank buster but I won't fit to arena anyways. Hs 129 would be nice and effective but it requires modeling completely new plane.

So, F-8 is it... Same as A-8 but with more armour plates and four underwing ETC 50 racks or Panzerblitz launchers and removed outer wing position MG 151's. And new skin. I'm sure the skin aint the problem, WB pilots cranck out unbelieveably nice skins with their warpaint program.

F-8 gets modeled, more 190's are used in ground attacks instead of F4U-1C (one can always hope), more variety on arena, everybody are happy, good vibes spread across the arena, less squeaking on board, more customers, new RPS arena, more customers.

I don't care if F-8 is perked from the beginning for whatever reason, I would still fly it.

 

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[StSanta]

F-8 or G8, and I would see no reason to perk it, as it does not have performance that is better than existing non perked fighter bombers

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"We are the light at the end of your sorry little tunnel." - A. Eldritch

[Jimdandy]

I know it's hard for AH to make totally new aircraft. An F-8 would be cool. But we pay for this, if you want a new plane don't give in to a variant. Ask for a new plane. If enough paying costumers want a certain new plane I would think HT and the crew will be smart enough to oblige their costumers. Expansion and customer service go hand in hand. Just look at the general increase in the numbers since the PT's, fleets, Seafire, and F6F came out. Those new vehicles and avenues of play appealed to a broader audience. They will add more new planes. That's a given. Which ones will be based on demand to a great extent I'm sure. So demand it. Don't give in for a variation if what you really want is a whole new plane. I do. I don't really even care which one. I want to see them all on here. I would like to see them do what they did with the last version and add a variation and a new one each up date. I would be tickled pink if that happened every time.

[This message has been edited by Jimdandy (edited 01-23-2001).]

[LJK Raubvogel]

Yes please.

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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

 

[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 01-23-2001).]

[Ripsnort]

Need it badly, while creating a LW-Only jabo mission for one of my pre-planned mission, I noticed that F-8 is needed badly!~

[StSanta]

Rip, imagine how us LW only types must feel  .



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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"We are the light at the end of your sorry little tunnel." - A. Eldritch

[ra]

<<<Hs 129 would be nice and effective>>>

Probably nice but not effective in an open arena full of late war planes and Ostwinds.  The current 190A-8 makes a better ground attack plane, and it's not a sitting duck when attacked by a Chog.

The problem with the current MA uber furball is that a lot of nice planes just couldn't be useful here.

ra

[Jochen]

 

Probably nice but not effective in an open arena full of late war planes and Ostwinds. The current 190A-8 makes a better ground attack plane, and it's not a sitting duck when attacked by a Chog.

The problem with the current MA uber furball is that a lot of nice planes just couldn't be useful here.

That's why I have been asking for "low priority" targets (see gameplay forum) like merchant ships and task forces consisting of only DD's.

Not every WWII combat zone was full of latest planes or planes at all. How did Stukas survive in eastern front until 1945? Simply because soviet fighter could not be everywhere over the vast frontline! It's totally different here in AH.

What if there could be a stretch of land where is only few small airfields but plenty of V bases near factories or cities? Ground war would be much more important and airfields being farther away ground slow attack planes would have time to hit targets before interceptors can get into area.

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[Jochen]

 

Rip, imagine how us LW only types must feel

Yep, it makes me kind of sad. Few days ago I was lying in my sofa looking pictures of F-8 and reading Nowarras book thinking how nice it would be flying one of those in AH.

We got Seafire which is variant of Spitfire V. Why cannot we get F-8!?!? It cannot be too hard to do. Sometimes I get feeling that even WWIIOL will introduce F-8 before AH and that thought makes me shrecking angry  

Sure, comletely new planes get more attention but they are also harder to do than variant.

F-8 is needed, it would get use, it is not hard to do. I cannot see the reason why we cannot have it.

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[StSanta]

Jochen, I suspect we'll see more allied fighter bombers, such as perk plane tempest, and some much needed VVS JABO planes before we get a LW plane other than a bomber that can take more than one egg. Unfortunately.

But we can always HOPE  .

And I do.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[Jochen]

I cannot let this fall down!

190F-8 oder bolsevismus!

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[This message has been edited by Jochen (edited 01-24-2001).]

[Ripsnort]

"Rip, imagine how us LW only feel?"

Why shoebox yourself into one plane type only? (In this case, LW plane type only?)

Hell, our last 3 squadron nights have had:

Japanese Jabo
British Jabo
and this coming week, Russian Jabo.

Just because you have a LW squadron doesn't mean you HAVE to fly LW only A/C...by flying them all, you not only become a much more skilled flyer, but you also tend to get to know the quirks of your nemesis A/C you primarily fly against in your LW kites.

Why someone would fly only one plane type (or country type) is way beyond me....

[Jochen]

 

Why someone would fly only one plane type (or country type) is way beyond me...

I (and many others) fly only certain planes not because it is easy but because it is hard. And doing that properly is the reward.

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey I/SG 5

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[StSanta]

What Jochen said.

Besides, it has A LOT to do with immersion; I an not an average Joe Schmoe "ride any kit" fighter schmuck.

I am a LW pilot. I am the elite. I am part of the best of the best.

How you guys manage great levels of immersion when you skiddle along jumping planes is beyond me  .

 



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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[Ripsnort]

Sorry to disagree, Jochen, but it is much easier to fly only a few flight model types than to fly all of them, but, whatever wets your whistle!

(Incidently, take a look at my 190A8 K/D ratio back when I was CO of JG2, my K/D ratio lifetime is 4.34 to 1 (278 kills to 64 deaths) only because I flew the plane long enough to know it is the most difficult A/C to master)

And I quote:
"There are ALOT of good pilots that fly only a handful, or one A/C type, but there are only a handful of good pilots that fly all A/C types..."

[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 01-24-2001).]