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Offline Delirium

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Best hard drive out there?
« on: September 25, 2009, 02:45:34 AM »
What is the best hard drive out there right now? I am looking at either Samsung, Seagate, or Western Digital.

I'm also looking at 32meg cache, 7200rpms, with the lowest clocked times available. (no Raptor or SSD units)

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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2009, 04:47:06 AM »
Any western digital AALS drive will give you you needs

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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2009, 06:14:43 AM »
Agree with TD, any good WD, not the cheapest ones they sell though.

Worth spending a few dollars more for a drive that lasts.

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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2009, 10:45:57 AM »
Don't even think about Samsung...  :O



Just wait, Ripley should chime in on this thread and give his opinion...  :devil
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2009, 11:20:25 AM »
Don't even think about Samsung...  :O



Just wait, Ripley should chime in on this thread and give his opinion...  :devil

You got a problem with that? Besides I've always recommended WD drives.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2009, 11:23:08 AM »
You got a problem with that? Besides I've always recommended WD drives.
No Ripley...just waiting to see what you recommend as far as the OPs needs go.

I have no recommendations other than forget Samsung.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 01:18:33 PM »
i have never had any problems with W.D.s

whats the big hype about SSD? ? ?
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 01:34:54 PM »
i have never had any problems with W.D.s

whats the big hype about SSD? ? ?

SSD's provide superior access times and transfer rates compared to traditional hdds. They have an achilles heel with write performance but that's already at least partly already solved.

They cost too much still which is why they're not yet so common.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 02:05:55 PM »
Depending on the SSD implementation, the overall performance degrades as it is used, eventually reaching floppy performance.

Seems a lot of folks have an opinion on which HD is best.  The quality of any HD, on any given day, will be a direct result of the parts that went into it.  As parts are not exact, from unit to unit, the drive you pickup today may be the best one ever, or worst one ever.

I have seen virtually every drive manufacturer have a failure within minutes of starting.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 02:15:38 PM »
i buy from newegg myself, just bought a 650 WD black, 60 whatever it was dollars, 5 year guarantee,
my other backup drive getting to small anymore.
This is my first WD drive thought I would try them, I have always used Seagate, after they bought maxtor, I have had good luck with their products so far.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 02:17:26 PM »
i agree with skuzzy, i have seen every brand of HD fail havent really seen one better then the other. i would say the best way to set up HD drives is with some type of RAID that either mirrors your data or stripes it to prevent any data loss should a drive go bad.

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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2009, 06:38:07 PM »
Ditto what Skuzzy said.

Over the decades I've had drives fail from every major vendor within a day of installation. I've also had drives from every major vendor live on for more than 8 years of daily use in horrible conditions.

From this, I've learned not to worry too much about specific drives from specific vendors.

These days, I generally look at the length of warranty, just to hedge my bets in favor of a free replacement down the road. Seagate has 5 year warranties, and that's fine, but some models of WD do too. I've picked both for my main gaming desktop.

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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2009, 08:28:15 PM »
I generally buy off of performance reviews, price, and warranty.  I will never leave my data solely stored on one source of media.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2009, 10:04:45 PM »
Western Digital Caviar "Black" seems to have great performance, great warranty, and the price is usually just a tiny bit more than other drives with much shorter warranties.  I'm personally waiting for the caviar black 2TB drives to get to a reasonable price, and then I'll buy a stack of them like I did with 500GB drives when they hit the bottom of the $/GB curve.

As for SSDs, Intel's latest SSD supports the "trim" command (must also be supported by the OS) which prevents the slowdown Skuzzy mentions.  Anandtech did an article recently on the new SSD drives and the new trim command, which can be thought of as defrag for SSDs.  In a nutshell, the claims are legit and the new drives won't suffer from the same problems as the older ones.  For now though, I think only vista and win7 have the required OS support and the drives that have the feature are still very expensive.

I figure SSDs will hit true consumer pricing after win7 has been out for a year and hardware supported only by win7 becomes mainstream.  Win7 is good enough that I think most of the computer geeks holding onto winXP will switch over reasonably soon, at least on their main computers.  WinXP will probably survive as virtual machine images, dual boot options, and on secondary computers since you can't do a direct upgrade from XP to win7, but I think even the geeks will switch to win7 because it not only works, it will offer some compelling features and new hardware support that will be hard to ignore.

That doesn't mean the switch won't be one more support nightmare for people like skuzzy to deal with, but it is a good enough OS release to push hardware development in the same ways that every previous major version except for vista did.  Vista couldn't even push DX10, but win7 will get people buying hardware to make the most of the new OS.
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Re: Best hard drive out there?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 12:06:09 PM »
Depending on the SSD implementation, the overall performance degrades as it is used, eventually reaching floppy performance.

Seems a lot of folks have an opinion on which HD is best.  The quality of any HD, on any given day, will be a direct result of the parts that went into it.  As parts are not exact, from unit to unit, the drive you pickup today may be the best one ever, or worst one ever.

I have seen virtually every drive manufacturer have a failure within minutes of starting.

Skuzzy I don't know how well you've been following SSD's but the latest indilinx and intel controlled SSD's have an automatic trim system which will purge stale blocks. This returns the write performance back to normal levels. The controller starts trimming the stale blocks immediately when the drive is idle.

Most SSD's still lack trim capability so they will essentially become bricks after a while. Chalenge has first hand experience, he jumped the wagon a bit too early.
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