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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #120 on: September 25, 2009, 03:17:21 PM »
only the SAPP ppl do.

daNGIT!!!!!

 i must've missed the memo!!!!


seriously, do you even know what SAPP is?
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #121 on: September 25, 2009, 03:18:34 PM »
LOL well you must fly awfully low for that to be the case.  My 38G tends to be on the deck most of the time.  Tough to pick from low alt :aok

and i can verify that.

i don't think i've ever seen anyone roll a 38G from a capped base before....till guppy and soulss came to mw the other night.  :aok
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #122 on: September 25, 2009, 03:19:10 PM »
P-38J or L is one of the easiest fighters in AH to jump in and do well with.  Calling it very hard is a farce.

I wish. I've been flying for years and STILL absolutely stink in the B-38. Which makes me sad as it's my favorite plane.  :cry

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #123 on: September 25, 2009, 03:20:54 PM »
daNGIT!!!!!

 i must've missed the memo!!!!


seriously, do you even know what SAPP is?

"Sissy And Pansy Pilots" ?


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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #124 on: September 25, 2009, 03:23:49 PM »
it's not misjudging speed. the 38 has 2 engines and 2 props to hang on.

 also, EVERY plane in the set can rope an opponent under the right conditions.

i've been roped by ponys, la's, 38's 47's 109's and others..........it is a very valid tactic. not a rookie move.

so very true, I have roped people in my Hurri2, and have killed 38's(and many others) trying to rope me in my Hurri, they almost always say "they did not think the hurri could do that..."  the rope is easy to spot and defend against.

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #125 on: September 25, 2009, 03:24:53 PM »
P-38J or L is one of the easiest fighters in AH to jump in and do well with.  Calling it very hard is a farce.

Karnak, have you lost it? It is pretty low-average in the two basic attributes that noobs can use easiest for kills/survival....turn and speed. Couple that with the fact that it can be dangerous if you don't watch it in dives....the only "easy mode" part of the 38 is the gun aiming and the lack of torque, the latter being of dubious usefulness to the uninitiated anyway, except for take-off.

Me and Batfink tried something the other day. Me, starting off with an alt advantage 38J, him in a SpitIX. Fighting in the vertical to the absolute limit, I got in one burst, that unfortunately for me did not prove fatal, and lost position, so he got me in subsequent maneuvering. Then he tried the 38 and me the SpitIX for a few iterations...I got him each time in that variation. And Batty is an uberstick with a ton of experience in twin-engine designs with nose-mounted firepower.  :devil   The uber-plane it ain't unless you know your situation and *exactly* what you are doing.
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #126 on: September 25, 2009, 03:25:07 PM »
The reality is the caliber of pilots flying them makes a big difference.
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I agree the majority of the players that fly these have been in the game along time.  It's a great plane vertical roll awesome, climb awesome, speed awesome, hard to beat!  :aok
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #127 on: September 25, 2009, 03:26:41 PM »
"Sissy And Pansy Pilots" ?




while i disagree, i gotta admit.....that was a funny and snappy comeback, and thankfully i wasn't drinking anything when i read it.

 you oughta look int SAPP a little. we tend to want to have fun........and not at the expense of others.  :aok
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #128 on: September 25, 2009, 03:27:18 PM »
"Sissy And Pansy Pilots" ?





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Ok, even after my 2 month break, I bet I forgot more than you ever knew and can still kill you with ease.  Matter of fact, I'm willing to put my theory to the test maybe, hmmm, tomorrow?
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #129 on: September 25, 2009, 03:30:05 PM »
while i disagree, i gotta admit.....that was a funny and snappy comeback, and thankfully i wasn't drinking anything when i read it.

 you oughta look int SAPP a little. we tend to want to have fun........and not at the expense of others.  :aok

LOL, i try.  what dose it mean.  For a long time i thought it was a squad.  





Oh wait, i see what it means.  So what dose it take to be a member?
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #130 on: September 25, 2009, 03:32:03 PM »
LOL, i try.  what dose it mean.  For a long time i thought it was a squad. 



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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #131 on: September 25, 2009, 03:32:06 PM »
Its a "secret" ;)
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #132 on: September 25, 2009, 03:33:44 PM »
LOL, i try.  what dose it mean.  For a long time i thought it was a squad. 

Secret
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not a squad, but rather a group or pile-its that love the 38, and love flying it, and the most important part.........having fun while flying it too.

 after all, if we're not having fun(without deliberatey ruining someone elses), then what's the point?

 :aok
 
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #133 on: September 25, 2009, 03:35:26 PM »
You obviously dont know what S.A.P.P. is all about do you?

Get the facts straight.


He's just mad because the plane that has shot him down the most in the MW has been the P-38 and his success against the P-38 in the LW arenas is just as poor as it is in the MW arena.  

No wonder the sight of a P-38 makes him tremble and soil himself out of fear.


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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #134 on: September 25, 2009, 03:35:55 PM »
Karnak, have you lost it? It is pretty low-average in the two basic attributes that noobs can use easiest for kills/survival....turn and speed. Couple that with the fact that it can be dangerous if you don't watch it in dives....the only "easy mode" part of the 38 is the gun aiming and the lack of torque, the latter being of dubious usefulness to the uninitiated anyway, except for take-off.

Me and Batfink tried something the other day. Me, starting off with an alt advantage 38J, him in a SpitIX. Fighting in the vertical to the absolute limit, I got in one burst, that unfortunately for me did not prove fatal, and lost position, so he got me in subsequent maneuvering. Then he tried the 38 and me the SpitIX for a few iterations...I got him each time in that variation. And Batty is an uberstick with a ton of experience in twin-engine designs with nose-mounted firepower.  :devil   The uber-plane it ain't unless you know your situation and *exactly* what you are doing.

ya.....i've taken shots that as i lined em up and fired, almost instantly, i thought  " o crap, i just lost this fight". this because i realized a little too late, that i gave up any advantage i had to get that quick shot.

patience is a virtue.
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