Updated ENY values for Planes

[Boozeman]

While the Pee-51D may not be worthy of ENY 5 from a pure A2A perspective, as soon as you take A2G into the equation, things change dramatically. Basically there is no other plane that can haul 2000 lbs of ords to the target faster and get out almost unmolested due to its speed.

The La7 may be a better fighter (at ow to medium alts), but it's almost useless in A2G.
The N1K may be as good as the D-Pony in A2G, but it's a 325 mph bird...for five minutes, after that > 315 mph...

The 47N can haul ord as well and fast as the Pony, but once WEP is out - it's just another slow Jug...

From that perspective, it's understandable that the 51D gets a lower ENY than those three other planes.     

[A8HatTrick]

I don't really care one way or the other, I fly the A8 unless heavy, then its a 38 or even an A5. If I ever fly a Stang it is typically the B model to go whack a few GV's in town, and I only have it up for a min or two.

[nick172]

KI84 a 20! what? KI84 should be the same as the spit8, in a fight they are neck and neck. A hog has a hard fight vs a ki84 so why is a hog a lower eny? I consider the ki84 one of the most deadly planes in the game, great climb, great turn, Great roll, Great Wep, good speed, good guns, dive sucks but that is it. Dive sucks on the p38l but its a 15, in every other aspect ki out preforms the 38L and Hogs.

Skyhawk

[Boozeman]

KI84 a 20 what? KI84 should be the same as the spit8, in a fight they are neck and neck. a hog has a hard fight vs a ki84 so why is a hog a lower eny? I consider the ki84 on of the most deadly planes in the game.

Skyhawk

Dive a 84 to 450 mph IAS and then try to roll...
The 84 is a great T&B bird, but if we consider the whole flight envelope, it has severe limitations.
The Hogs and Spits on the other hand...don't.

[nick172]

hogs dont, you are correct but the ki makes up for it in every other aspect as stated. and if your raising eny for the dive, why is the p38 a lower eny then the ki, it sucks in the dive too. Dive should in not take precedence over the other flight envelopes.

[Boozeman]

hogs dont, you are correct but the ki makes up for it in every other aspect as stated. and if your raising eny for the dive, why is the p38 a lower eny then the ki, it sucks in the dive too. Dive should in not take precedence over the other flight envelopes.

Well, the P-38 will loose control authority - the Ki84 will lose control surfaces - big difference. 

[MjTalon]

hogs dont, you are correct but the ki makes up for it in every other aspect as stated. and if your raising eny for the dive, why is the p38 a lower eny then the ki, it sucks in the dive too. Dive should in not take precedence over the other flight envelopes.

FYI, P-38 doesn't suck in a dive.

[Anaxogoras]

Again, many are forgetting that these ENY changes reflect aircraft popularity, not performance.  If you don't like that, then you have to take BnZ's side in these arguments.

[Megalodon]

109E-4=40
109F-4=30???
109G-2=30 egg, gondolas, DT
109G-6=30 egg, gondolas,rockets, DT and up armor

109E-4 should at least have a DT
109F-4 should at least get an egg and be 35

[texastc316]

p38 does not suck in a dive.

[llama]

While the Pee-51D may not be worthy of ENY 5 from a pure A2A perspective, as soon as you take A2G into the equation, things change dramatically. Basically there is no other plane that can haul 2000 lbs of ords to the target faster and get out almost unmolested due to its speed. 

Except, of course, for the Typhoon.

Below 6k, which honestly is the alt where someone dropping bombs is going to find themselves, the Tiffie is faster both with WEP and without, it drags along 2K worth of bombs, and then when you are done, you have 4 cannon to strafe things with, AND you can turnfight better if you need to.

-Llama

[TheRapier]

Hehe Madda! It was sort of a relative thing, ie. if this moves that should move relative to it.

If ENY is based on popularity of choice only (performance doesn't figure into it?!!! seems cockeyed) it basically is a vote then. All we have to do is ALL of us fly say the LA7 for a camp. It should jack its popularity through the roof  and make it a perk plane. All we have to do is ALL agree. . .

Ok that's the end of that proposal .

I think Delirium's point that ENY doesn't affect side switchers is sort of missed here. It points to the question of whether loyalty to a side makes any difference at all. If it doesn't, why does so much of the game infrastructure support it? If it does, why is ENY allowed to function as a mechanism to penalize those that don't switch?

There are individuals and squads that are exploiting this aspect of ENY constantly, to the detriment of the country system. At the very least, limiting side switching should be a consideration. <ducks the storm to follow>

[Anaxogoras]

   People that side-switch are doing everyone a big favor in my opinion.

[Spikes]

  People that side-switch are doing everyone a big favor in my opinion.

Have to agree here...

[Boozeman]

Except, of course, for the Typhoon.

Correct.