what about SAPP?
Last I checked, SAPP never claimed to be a wing, Group or anything else but a bunch of folks who love the 38. We tend to announce it when we're flying and where we are going, with the intent of finding a fight, not capturing cartoon real estate. We certainly aren't organized and make no claims beyond being able to auger with the best of em, and having the only 38s in AH with specially designed and modified Margarita Blenders in out 38s thanks to Shuffler.
Yes occasionally you will hear the cry "Torps for the town" when we used the special SAPP codes to modify our 38s to carry torpedos.
All in all SAPP is just silly....Then again maybe that makes us alot like these guys. Nah, they don't know they're being silly.
Mensa is our 5 star general.