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Offline doomed

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screen stutters
« on: October 04, 2009, 10:35:40 AM »
Hi i don't want to get into the entire thing again but since the .8 patchi have had bad screen stutters that make the game unplayable almost

Ive uninstalled re installed updated drivers got older ones done hi rez no hi rez turned all settings off and on bla bla bla and nothing changes at all as far as the stutters and frame rate issues go.

Its been a while and no update to fix it or address it. Is something being worked on or should i just cancel my account because i really don't have much fun when i can play for crap because of the stutters.I really enjoy AH but this is getting old fast,my machine is not "top of the line' but is very very good and has no trouble playing any other game including extream graphic hungry games. :furious

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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2009, 10:49:25 AM »
A DXDIAG output would be helpful.

I am going to take a real wild guess here and say your computer might have a multi-core AMD CPU and an NVidia video card.  Just testing a theory, at the moment.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2009, 11:14:00 AM by Skuzzy »
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2009, 11:07:30 AM »
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2009, 11:14:29 AM »
Still need the DXDIAG output.
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 11:26:53 AM »
A DXDIAG output would be helpful.

I am going to take a real wild guess here and say your computer might have a multi-core AMD CPU and an NVidia video card.  Just testing a theory, at the moment.


Paying close attention although I don't have stutters but I do have the above.
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 11:28:36 AM »
Not all of that combination is affected.
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 11:50:01 AM »
Sorry i dont know how to do the dxilog thing but i do have duel core and nvidea 9800

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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 11:50:18 AM »
I have an intel duel core with nvidia 9800 card and have some stuttering.

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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2009, 12:14:34 PM »
All that can be done, without a DXDIAG output, is just "guessing".
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2009, 12:15:57 PM »
DXDIAG - Go to start button, run, type dxdiag, hit enter. It will then throw up the info required. Once thats done, you can save it as a text file, and you need to post the first 1/3rd on here for Skuzzy, or email it to him on the support email.


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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2009, 12:22:55 PM »
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/4/2009, 11:16:55
       Machine name: REDWINGS1
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: EVGA__
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               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 2302MB RAM
          Page File: 201MB used, 3995MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL).  You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
        Sound Tab 1: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL).  You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
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     Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9062 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
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        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0605
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      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
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                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: SB X-Fi Audio [0001]
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: No
          Date and Size: 2/19/2009 18:45:16, 535320 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Standard
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 128
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 128
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       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: SB X-Fi Audio [0001]
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1346 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
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                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB X-Fi Synth B [0001] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB X-Fi Synth A [0001] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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    Controller ID: n/a
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      Device Name: CH Control Manager Device 1
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Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC010
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: CH Control Manager Device 2
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x1
Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC011
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: CH Control Manager Device 3
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x2
Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC012
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x036C
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 12:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/4/2004 06:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00DD
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:48, 14592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC000
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:48, 14592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 18:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Logitech USB TrackMan Wheel
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC404
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c404
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:47, 23040 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/4/2004 06:00:00, 12160 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC001
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:47, 23040 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/4/2004 06:00:00, 12160 bytes
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+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 18:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 12:39:47, 23040 bytes
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2009, 12:23:51 PM »
If you need more let me know

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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2009, 12:58:39 PM »
Skuzzy, I've had the same problem...posted dxdiag repeatedly...no resolution. Fortunately I know enough on how to tweak my system so the stuttering is minimal most of the time.

One question that no one has deemed worth answering, and I'm going to ask again, does the game still do the pre-load stuff like it did in 2.13? The options for preloading textures and skins doesn't exist in the main video settings area anymore...that was the most notable change. Can't say that the preload is still happening because with 2.13 my system was using over 122MB of video memory with high steady frame rates in all situations and no stuttering, now I'm lucky if it uses 100MB with detailed water on...ver 2.15 average is 88MB+, frame rates from 74 to 40, and every 30 seconds a noticeable video stutter occurs regardless of altitude...really low level (< 1000ft) the stutter is more pronounced.

System information...again:


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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/5/2009, 08:47:13
       Machine name: XXX
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: XFX68L
       System Model: XFX Nforce 680i LT
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 2558MB RAM
          Page File: 528MB used, 2896MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9500 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0643&SUBSYS_400A1682&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9062 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 8/17/2009 00:57:00, 5845760 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 8/17/2009 00:57:00, 7729568 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4503-11CF-5456-016000C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0643
        SubSys ID: 0x400A1682
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2009, 08:22:53 PM »
Gyrene you have your resoluation set very low. Can it run the game in native resolution for your monitor?

Wing19 is your Soundblaster X-Fi a Gamer Xtreme by any chance? I suspect shared IRQs and audio processing pushed to the CPU is causing the problem.  Moving to faster video cards is not going to fix that but getting a better sound card would at least help.
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Re: screen stutters
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2009, 10:51:47 PM »
Chalange

it is a Sound Blaster X-fi Titanium, and what would be a better card?

How can I change IRQ settings I have tried looking on the internet and the set up for my motherboard. Cant seem to change anything.

any help would be appreciated
« Last Edit: October 04, 2009, 10:57:43 PM by Wing19 »
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