Author Topic: HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds  (Read 635 times)

Offline Karnak

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I know this is an unusual request in some ways.

 
As can be clearly seen on this modeling color chart the Mosquito FB.VI "Black Rufe" possesed "Exhaust Flame Damping Shrouds" or "Ducted Saxophone Exhausts" (whichever term you prefer) that significantly reduce performance. The only purpose to these devices was for night operation which AH doesn't currently model.

The Mosquito is already a marginal aircraft in the context of AH. If it is modeled with the exhaust damping it will be even less useful as even N1K2s will outrun it. It would be kind of ironic if the Mosquito were to be one of the slowest aircraft in AH, even at sea level.

Given the kind of combat that it will be used for (daylight) the first thing that pilots would demand is for the exhaust damping system to be replaced with exhaust ejector stubs in order to give some slim chances of survival. 14mph (and whatever acceleration and climb improvement) can make the difference between survival and death.

In an environment in which very fast aircraft are much more common than what the Mosquito FB.VI had to deal with in reality it would be a shame to reduce the usefulness of the Mosquito by modeling it as the slower of the two possibilities.

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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2001, 11:12:00 AM »
yeah.
no need to make the mossie slower than it needs to be.

fine if exhaust shrouds are on the 3d model for simplicity but no sense in degrading the planes performance because of that simplicity.

but I think this is what pyro was doing anyway.

simpler poly's for the model and standard performance for the plane

[ 09-07-2001: Message edited by: Fester' ]

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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2001, 12:36:00 PM »
Anyone know where to get those markings for the Tamiya Mossie in 1/48th?

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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2001, 03:42:00 PM »
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Anyone know where to get those markings for the Tamiya Mossie in 1/48th?

Try the Airfix decals Pongo, I got the same markings on my 1/48th scale Airfix Mosquito FB.VI.  I can't help you with where exactly to get the decals on their own though you could try emailing Airfix direct?

 http://www.airfix.com/Models.asp?MOD=7100&CAT=1

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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2001, 04:02:00 PM »
In that case HTC needs to model one plane already existing in AH without additional armour-plates  ;)

That is fair isn't it  :)

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2001, 04:17:00 PM »
Staga,

No, it isn't fair or unfair.  Its completely unrelated.

It isn't you or I that make these decisions.  It is HTC who will decide.  We merely make requests.

If you want some change in an existing aircraft I suggest that you start a thread about it and cease hijacking threads about other subjects.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2001, 04:43:00 PM »
Karnak you had a proposal and I just showed where it leads.
There's no room for double-standards in AH imo.

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2001, 04:52:00 PM »
Staga,

There are no standards in AH.

I'm surprised you haven't seen that already.
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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2001, 05:44:00 PM »
Never underestimate HTC's ability to pork twin engined planes  ;)  :D

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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2001, 06:33:00 PM »
Never underestimate the community's ability to whine about something that doesn't yet exist.   :D

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2001, 11:06:00 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2001, 03:07:00 PM »
Karnak,

I wouldn't worry about the exhaust damping shrouds at all!  I was talking to a De Havilland technician today at the DH Heritage Museum and he said that the shrouds actually caused a jet like effect which boosted speed up to 20mph.  This wasn't found out until after the war, why I don't know, but I wasn't going to argue with a technician who had been working for DH for 40 odd years!   :)

See my other thread on the General forum.

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HTC, please model the Mossie's FM without the exhaust damping shrouds
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2001, 03:55:00 PM »
Nexx several planes benefited from exhaust mods which created a jet effect increasing top speeds slightly.  

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2001, 06:06:00 PM »
Thanks for the info.

Coming from DeHaviland it sounds good.  :D

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2001, 09:14:00 PM »
lol tronski  :D

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