3D model specification?

[saantana]

I thought this would be nice. A lot of us have IT experience and participate in one way or another.

HTC could tap into that resource by publishing a specification of what a 3D model should satisfy in order to be considered for the game.

Now, they could hold competitions on submissions and choose models that make it into the game based on usability / how well the model was made.

Thoughts?

[Saxman]

Probably not going to happen any time soon. Look at how long it takes to model a new plane as it is. There's a LOT of work that goes into it. Now imagine trying to weed out submissions from a couple dozen people outside the company.

[ToeTag]

It has great intentions but......


I don't tell anyone how I do my work for my business..


Why...

I dont't want them to know how I do it.   

[saantana]

Probably not going to happen any time soon. Look at how long it takes to model a new plane as it is. There's a LOT of work that goes into it. Now imagine trying to weed out submissions from a couple dozen people outside the company.

I'm sure weeding through submissions is less work then the actual modeling  

It would allow for more models per time at little extra cost to HTC themselves, and allow for more community participation.

[saantana]

It has great intentions but......


I don't tell anyone how I do my work for my business..


Why...

I dont't want them to know how I do it.   

That's true, however 3D modeling is hardly a company secret. The algorithms that are used to model the models behavior are I'm sure, but those are not required to be made public for this to work.

[Spikes]

But the submissions may not be up to par. I know you said give us guidelines as to what they want, but I guarantee youll get guys who once find out about submissions, do some crappy plane as a P80 or B29 and submit it. HTC takes time to do each invididual detail, spec, of the plane. I just cant see this coming to pass any time soon...

[Saxman]

As someone who's done a bit of modelling I can tell you that checking for errors, duplicate faces, invalid faces, extra polygons, properly setting meshes, etc. etc. by ITSELF is a time-consuming process. Having twenty guys submit a model for one aircraft is only going to add to the workload.

[saantana]

But the submissions may not be up to par. I know you said give us guidelines as to what they want, but I guarantee youll get guys who once find out about submissions, do some crappy plane as a P80 or B29 and submit it. HTC takes time to do each invididual detail, spec, of the plane. I just cant see this coming to pass any time soon...

But those wouldn't make the cut then. If this went through, I imagine something like 10 - 15 submissions per year that would take a day to weed through.
Even if only 1 or 2 make the cut, that day spent on weeding through them might be worth it.

Hey, its a wish

[saantana]

Oh man, no positive thoughts?

 

[rabbidrabbit]

I would think that aircraft and vehicle models are a lot more complicated than other objects.  Perhaps terrain objects would be viable?

[ToeTag]

whats up with the negative vibes moriarty.....

They would have to check each model thouroughly to make sure it is done how they do it.

I used to be an architect for a while.....

Going through drawings / models is a pain in the arse and only upsets you.

why ....

Because you waste a day finding the mistakes and you waste a day fixing them.  Then you waste a day doing what should have been done the first time.  Doing it the way it should have been done from the begining.  

This is all proportional to how big of a project it is and only compounds with its complexity.  I've spent months fixing what only took weeks to get wrong.

[Strip]

Just have a peer review thread....let the informed players decide what should be sent in.

Its quite simple to get a object from AC3D into the game once you learn the process.

[Saxman]

I've spent months fixing what only took weeks to get wrong.

Lol, this is so quotable.

[saantana]

Just have a peer review thread....let the informed players decide what should be sent in.

Its quite simple to get a object from AC3D into the game once you learn the process.

My point exactly. The submission process could be filtered out, and there could be a cap on how many submissions make it, therefore reducing sorting workload.

This idea boosts community participation.
I think it would be vastly interesting to see a model 'tournament' at the end of a lets say couple of months. There could even be a sort of list of desirable models, and designers pick which one they attempt.

The argument for a fix taking months is void; those that need fixing just bounce. An experienced 3d modeler can tell a model is bad within the first couple of minutes of looking at it, I'm sure.

Just a wish remember!

[Ex-jazz]

I would think that aircraft and vehicle models are a lot more complicated than other objects.  Perhaps terrain objects would be viable?

Lets say, the HTC accept models for the review only from specified persons/CM's. These are filtering all inbound models from the community.

When 3D model with all external shapes (intact & damaged) plus necessary LOD's, UV-maps and animations is approved by these CM's, then and only then HTC will take just a look to it.