Can't fly above 3k around ship

[Getback]

If you can't fly above 3k around the cv while defending a base then you need to have puffy ack at shoreline bases so the cons can't fly above 3k as well.

[JunkyII]

NO.....if anything you should be asking for no AAA, maybe dumb down the cv puffy ack but Im not sure how puffy from task groups were back then as far as accuracy

[Xasthur]

If you can't fly above 3k around the cv while defending a base then you need to have puffy ack at shoreline bases so the cons can't fly above 3k as well.

What? Why?

[grizz441]

If you can't fly above 3k around the cv while defending a base then you need to have puffy ack at shoreline bases so the cons can't fly above 3k as well.

It's a reasonable whine but imo, since a carrier is a temporary offensive force until it is destroyed, the aforementioned advantage is acceptable.  Most planes coming off a carrier are low anyways.

[saantana]

Plus carrier plane set is limited, another disadvantage. Unless your good in the hog or the hellcat.

[bj229r]

It IS effing mind-boggling how devastating puffy (be it shipborne or factoryborne) has become of late....2 of my 1st 4 sorties this camp, I was  set afire by puffy at 12k+, 5 miles horizontally away....change alts, speeds....they're like little SAM's after ya

[Sol75]

I agree puffy neds to be toned down, yet still present.  CV battles used to be great fun.. all those planes low OTD in a swirling fight.. not anymore.  now the attackers simply climb above the defenders, since the defenders can't go above 3k, yet the attackers can go as high as they want.  Boring pick fest.

[Noir]

yep SAM is the word ! 

[DREDIOCK]

I must be lucky cause puffy ack rarely ever kills me. Course now that I said that I probably wont be able to get within 5,000 yards of a CV LOL

Case in point. Two nights ago I felt like flying bombers for a change of pace. So I upped a flight of 17's, climbed to around 8K, and headed to a base I wanted to bomb.
While on the way I spotted a CV directly in my path. So I figured I'd see if I could hit the Cruiser and carrier. So I calibrated and goton the bombsight. Now I normally totally suck at bombing (which is why you dont see me in bombers very often) and that night was no exception....well I sucked a little less then normal anyway.

 Puffy ack is going off all around me as I carefully steer the formation at the CV. I notice someone is turning the cv so I try to make adjustments to predict the most likely path. "click click click" Bombs away on the cruiser. More adjustments then "click click click" bombs away on the carrier.
I jump in the ball turret to see where the bombs hit. Puffly ack going off all the time. Im expecting to loose anty or all of my craft at any moment.
I watch as the bombs hit...water. But I was damned close as it looked like they missed by only 20-30 yards at the most. Wow. not bad for someone who has been known to miss an entire airfeild while aiming for the middle of it.

 At this point I want to turn around and try again. Looking at the map to get my bearings. I see that I am close enough to the airfield that was my original intended target to make a run on that. and then turn around for another try on the CV on my way home again. So I figure I'll make a run on the VH, then go back for the CV.
Happy to be out of the puffy ack,I check my aircraft for damage. There is none. so I start my run on the field. "click,click, click" Bombs away.
Again back in the ball turret to watch my explosions. "Boom BaboomBoom" Just as my last bomb was hitting and right on target I might add. I saw a friendly swoop down and also hit the VH. Mine hit a split second too late "Drats!" I finally hit the broadside of a barrn in these damn things. Only to have someone blow it up a split second before me!"

So I start my turn to go back and try again on the CV with my remaining ordinance. When suddenly "ting ta ting ting ting!" WTF? so I look around and see one of those evil ugly nasty spitfires. Now would ya believe it? This little bastage was actually trying to shoot at me! I tell ya. The NERVE of some peoples kids picking on a poor defenseless me !

Time to man the guns. In a display of gunnery that would have made 999000 proud. I jump in the ball "ratatatatat! pinged him up good. He goes high. I jump in the top turret "ratatatatat" and the impetuous peasants left wing falls off and he goes spiraling down. heh, pick on me will ya.
So I jump back in the pilots seat and continue my turn back in the general direction of the CV's last known location taking into account the direction it was headed before I tried to bomb it. I almost completed my turn when over the radio someone warns me of a P47 So I look around and "ting ting ting tating BANG!"
 Rut roh. this cant be good. noticing a white trail coming from my right outboard engine I finally spot this next insolent foolish mortal and bring my guns to bear and after switching bwetween my ball top and tail guns. while using my rudder to complete my turn. His left wing too falls off sending him down ( I must have a thing for left wingers LOL)

Ok back to looking for the CV. Finally I spot it. Puffy act starts going off again all around me as I steer towards target. I take careful aim on the carrier. Leading. adjusting for the turn. Careful, careful dont over compensate, then.... Bombs away!
Back in the ball again to watch my hits. Puffy ack going nuts now all around. I watch. I wait. I wait then watch some more. BOOM! a stream of text bursts across my buffer
 X GUN DESTROYED! Y GUN DESTROYED Z GUN DESTROYED X GUN DESTROYED!!!
DIRECT HIT!!! I blew the living crap out of.......

one of the support ships.

 Not exactly the target I was aiming for. But hey. I told you I sucked in bombers LOL

Puffy ack going crazy all around me. and being out of eggs and no further air cons attacking me I buttoned up and headed for home and landed my two kills and the score from the damaged support ship.
Doing a damage assessment. Other then the damaged engine (which made it allt he way back home) caused by the P47 and a few minor holes. No perceivable damage was caused by the puffy ack while flying through the heart of it twice.

But then I've always been pretty lucky with puffy ack. Its lazor ack  the CVs shoot that have always given me the problems

[bj229r]

Bombers never seem to suffer much from auto-puffy....perhaps it's their incredibly large size, slow speed, and straight course (also perhaps the 3 planes split puffy's attention 3 ways)

[Saxman]

Better solution:

Don't allow CV's to get so close to shore. A boat should NOT be able to vulch the field with AAA.

[thndregg]

Bombers never seem to suffer much from auto-puffy....perhaps it's their incredibly large size, slow speed, and straight course (also perhaps the 3 planes split puffy's attention 3 ways)

Concur. 8K drops on CV's are routine stuff for me as well. Very rarely does the auto-puffy ack seriously take me out in my B26's. Usually what does me in is a very good gunner on the 5-inch, or a very good defensive cover.

[Masherbrum]

Better solution:

Don't allow CV's to get so close to shore. A boat should NOT be able to vulch the field with AAA.

Now I damn well agree with this suggestion. 

[Bino]

Better solution:

Don't allow CV's to get so close to shore. A boat should NOT be able to vulch the field with AAA.

+1 

[JunkyII]

Better solution:

Don't allow CV's to get so close to shore. A boat should NOT be able to vulch the field with AAA.

5 inch gunners can vulch it from like 6k....


+1