Might be fired...

[CAP1]

It's never so much about making a mistake as it is how people handle that mistake. If it comes to the worse just be honest with your next employer. They have all made mistakes I assure you.

EXCELLENT POINT.

[Reschke]

So monday came and went, nothing.

My manager is acting like nothing happened, and is making plans with me to further my position at the bank.

Maybe she just needs a little after hours training session with you in her office behind closed curtains and doors...Be sure to film it for liability sake just in case she decides to fire you after furthering your position in the bank.

[rpm]

You don't have to say anything and you're not even supposed to say why.

He worked here from MM/YY to MM/YY and I would/would not rehire him.

Exactly.

[oakranger]

Not even close to it.

All they're supposed to be able to ask boils down to did he/she work there for the time period stated.  I have an employer on my record where we separated on extremely bad terms officially.  Unofficially I still have a lot of friends and to their credit the HR people have been professional when it came to inquiries about my employment history there and it has not caused any headaches with prospective employers since then.  That place also gave me several TMAAT (Tell me about a time) stories I use on interviews which give a background on the kind of place it was.

If he's being used as a reference and I'm not picking up the sarcasm that's one thing.  I read it a few times and I'm pretty sure it's not tongue in cheek.

yes.....because i didn't make a comment directly about him.

i can't say something like " he's late all the time", unless i'm directly asked that question.

legally, i can only say how his work was.

 but reality is that in each of our respective communities(or professions) we build reputations. i've never had trouble finding work, because of this. others have.

 i will not lie to someone about "mr smith" saying he's good, if he sucks.

 there's always ways around things like that.

 right now, my old boss...the guy i worked for just before i got this place......he asked me if i knew the dude he has working for him now......and he kinda regrets hiring the dude.
 i've been nice enough to not say i told ya so.

The only people that can ask your past employment about you (AND I MEAN ASKED EVERYTHING) is the federal government.  They will asked why you left and want details.   

[Kazaa]

We are all only Human and make mistakes. That's all I have to say about that.

[Changeup]

Well...its been a while now....how is going at this point?

V/r Changeup

[Flipperk]

Still have a job at this point 

[PJ_Godzilla]

Great. Now let's file this one away as a dead thread.

You're a lucky little so-and-so.

Note to self, if I'm going to run afoul of some corporate policy, always be sure to offend the clueless skank in the arrangement. She was probably too stupid/too busy leasing all holes and getting wasted to act on her idle threats. Don't worry about her, she's like a bowling ball - she gets picked up, fingered, and thrown in the gutter. No, wait, that's unfair. She's more like a doorknob - everybody gets a turn. No, wait, I misspoke. She's mor elike Peanut Butter - she spreads for bread.

I kill myself. File under 3rd grade humor.


THAT'S the real lesson of this episode. Choosing the most despicable enemy can make all the difference. It's the only thing that kept the Republicans afloat all these years, after all.

[CAP1]

Great. Now let's file this one away as a dead thread.

You're a lucky little so-and-so.

Note to self, if I'm going to run afoul of some corporate policy, always be sure to offend the clueless skank in the arrangement. She was probably too stupid/too busy leasing all holes and getting wasted to act on her idle threats. Don't worry about her, she's like a bowling ball - she gets picked up, fingered, and thrown in the gutter. No, wait, that's unfair. She's more like a doorknob - everybody gets a turn. No, wait, I misspoke. She's mor elike Peanut Butter - she spreads for bread.

I kill myself. File under 3rd grade humor.


THAT'S the real lesson of this episode. Choosing the most despicable enemy can make all the difference. It's the only thing that kept the Republicans afloat all these years, after all.

i think more likely file under "dummy gets himself PNG'd"

[Mister Fork]

Still have a job at this point  

So next time...

...if you come across anything like this again, let your manager know RIGHT away that there might be issues.  As a manager, I hate surprises, but if I have the details on one side of the story before the others present theirs, I can often defuse the situation because I sound like I know what's going on, and it makes me trust my staff even more if they share 'uh oh' moments...

If your manager hasn't brought it up, bring it up. Explain everything, in detail.  If he/she fires you on the stop, F*&# em.  Good leaders love proactive and transparent employees.  If they're a bad leader/manager, they'll throw a fit - which means you probably don't want to work there anyways.  Consider it a good test of their leadership skills and how the bank values their employees.

As always, learn from your mistakes.  I give my staff members a lot digression when crap like this happens.  For them to be proactive helps diffuse the situation quickly.  Imagine what a different conversation would of happened if YOUR manager called the daughter about her mother poking about her account and that was communicated to both parties?

Mom: how much does my kid owe?
You: I can tell you, but we will have to let her know that we told you the amount and that you inquired about her balance.
Mom: never mind.

And if you help your manager keep out of trouble, they'll be more willing to trust you with more responsibility.  At least a GOOD manager will.  It's a two-way street - you find out what they're like and vice-versa.

[PJ_Godzilla]

So next time...

...if you come across anything like this again, let your manager know RIGHT away that there might be issues.  As a manager, I hate surprises, but if I have the details on one side of the story before the others present theirs, I can often defuse the situation because I sound like I know what's going on, and it makes me trust my staff even more if they share 'uh oh' moments...

If your manager hasn't brought it up, bring it up. Explain everything, in detail.  If he/she fires you on the stop, F*&# em.  Good leaders love proactive and transparent employees.  If they're a bad leader/manager, they'll throw a fit - which means you probably don't want to work there anyways.  Consider it a good test of their leadership skills and how the bank values their employees.

As always, learn from your mistakes.  I give my staff members a lot digression when crap like this happens.  For them to be proactive helps diffuse the situation quickly.  Imagine what a different conversation would of happened if YOUR manager called the daughter about her mother poking about her account and that was communicated to both parties?

Mom: how much does my kid owe?
You: I can tell you, but we will have to let her know that we told you the amount and that you inquired about her balance.
Mom: never mind.

And if you help your manager keep out of trouble, they'll be more willing to trust you with more responsibility.  At least a GOOD manager will.  It's a two-way street - you find out what they're like and vice-versa.

This is good general work policy advice.

I like to think of the "more senior" here at the Big Lazy F as the customer. Remember that the customer is always right and strive to give the customer what he wants. That's the basis for the trade relationship. Beyond that, it'd be easy to summarize much of the above as "honesty is the best policy". Neither commit an untruth nor omit a truth - and in timely fashion. PEople forget that the business relationship is conditional and a repeated series of interactions - thus morally demanding if to be maintained.

One my Dad picked up from dentistry that I carry in the corporate world is "inform before you perform". This was more critical when I was a consultant but is still useful now especially when I harbor doubts about what I'm about to do. The business world doesn't much value the hard liquor statement, "hey, watch this". I know a guy who did that on the test track and ended up hanging from the floor like a smoked hock of pork.

Some day, when your career is well established and you've got a full collection of commitments, you will find yourself dreaming of having enough time to be a cartoon fighter pilot...

[PJ_Godzilla]

i think more likely file under "dummy gets himself PNG'd"

Sure, and probably the same for me with that kind of post.

[Changeup]

Just make sure not to take any EEOC behavioral advice from P J Godzilla....his female "slants" have an "AVOID AT ALL COSTS IN THE WORKPLACE" tone to them! 

Glad to hear your are still in the world of the employeed.....a lot aren't that lucky and they didn't do a thing.

V/r
Changeup

[Babalonian]

I wish you the best, but it sounds like you may be thrown under the bus.  Most places look at saving face rather than going to bat for their employees.  You could always use the argument that it was the mother of the account holder.  The only reason the daughter got so bent out of shape is because her mother probably reamed her good.

Most smartassed teens these days would be gettign drug tested by their parents if they found out their "darling's savings acount drained and over-drafted... yeah, I'd say she was a little pissed off from only screwing herself over.  And if she's not 18, you're 100% in the clear here since she'd be a legal guardian still (I'd play it off that spin "I though her daughter was under 18".). 

[Rollins]

The ex-presidents are surfers.