Verdict on the P-47M?

[5PointOh]

It can turn with what?

Its a great picker, as is the d9.  Please spare me with thinking its some superplane, it isnt.  I guess to figure out how it does OTD in a furball, you would have to be in that position for starters.

p51 eats it alive
p38 just needs to get it below 225 mph before it gets spanked
other jugs have the ability to go vert under 150mph, p47M, does not.
spitfires?  not worth comparison
n1k/ki84 ect.. easily outturn.
k4 and any other 109s.. see spitfires.

 I agree with Lazer, I find it can be a little unstable at slow speeds of the deck.  I just like the prudy paint.

[Clone155]

It can turn with what?

Its a great picker, as is the d9.  Please spare me with thinking its some superplane, it isnt.  I guess to figure out how it does OTD in a furball, you would have to be in that position for starters.

p51 eats it alive
p38 just needs to get it below 225 mph before it gets spanked
other jugs have the ability to go vert under 150mph, p47M, does not.
spitfires?  not worth comparison
n1k/ki84 ect.. easily outturn.
k4 and any other 109s.. see spitfires.

No, the only plane like that is the spit16. You are right, it sucks, don't bother with it 

[Lazerr]

No, the only plane like that is the spit16. You are right, it sucks, don't bother with it 

It will be flown like a 190d9, p51d, or any other fast 1 pass haul bellybutton planes...   If I was in a spit16 and you came and tried to kill me in a p47M I would eat you for lunch.

[Rich46yo]

I just took one up in the T/A. A 1/4'th tank gives you about 28+ mins duration and the light ammo load? Well after 20 1 second bursts I quit counting and still had about 600 rounds left. Thats a 1 sec burst of 8 0.50s, enough to smoke any fighter in the game. And thats the light ammo load.

It auto-climbs at 130 mph. Get the 47-M to about 300 mph after take off using wep, set auto climb to 130 mph, and then see how fast you get to 10k. Not like any Jug I ever flew. From there I dove, going over 550 mph, then climbing out setting auto-climb again. Right back to 10k. Amazing. Nothing broke off and I never lost control. I didnt even need the dive brakes. At 7k without wep I held a steady 355 mph, "392 with wep". At 1k it was 371 with wep. I dont know what all this means cause Ive only killed a few planes in it but the P-47M does seem pretty impressive.

I dont know why anyone would even consider getting slow in one.

[Lusche]

p51 eats it alive

Seems like a dumb question, but as I don't fly American iron very often I still dare to ask it: Why?

Performance charts tell me: 51 is slightly faster up to ~14k, considerable slower above that. In climb rate the 47M beats the 51D. I haven't measured turn rate & radius yet, but assuming it's between a D-40 and 47B, it should have a slightly better turn radius than a 51 at full flaps, slightly larger one without flaps.

So what is that decisive advantage the 51D has to justify such a strong claim?

[Clone155]

Seems like a dumb question, but as I don't fly American iron very often I still dare to ask it: Why?

Performance charts tell me: 51 is slightly faster up to ~14k, considerable slower above that. In climb rate the 47M beats the 51D. I haven't measured turn rate & radius yet, but assuming it's between a D-40 and 47B, it should have a slightly better turn radius than a 51 at full flaps, slightly larger one without flaps.

So what is that decisive advantage the 51D has to justify such a strong claim?

He is just frustrated because he gets shot down by them. Let him vent, we have all been there. 

[Lazerr]

lol.. I dont currently play the game.  I've going based of ten years of playing the game, and having a pretty good grasp on what plane does what.

I dont think ive looked at a chart in ten years.
 
Look up my stats for Devour and a p47M..  i had 30 some odd kills and maybe 1 death... im not saying the plane sucks, but I knew how I had to fly it within a couple sorties. Maybe you should take the advice for what its worth, and as soon as Im back I can teach you a couple things about well.. any plane in the set

[Lazerr]

try this... go get into a turnfight at 150mph on sortie with a p51, and do the same the following sortie with a p47M.

At any point below 150mph, try pulling the nose up on the both and let me know what your results are..  If your going to use your "turn radius" and try and flat turn me on the deck, im going to mop the arena with you.

[PK1Mw]

I don't get into the whole specific stat thing, as far as MPH and how big/small the turn radius is. I will say after flying it, and I normally fly the D25, at slow speeds the M does not handle the greatest. I like flying jugs in knife fights, do it quite often. M will not be my choice to do that in, I will stick with my D25, as it seems more stable for the typical knife fight.

M is a great plane, just don't see it being too much different from the N in a fight. I love the plane, just nothing to get excited about..

Just my 2 cents, which isn't worth crap in today's economy.

[Anaxogoras]

Someone asks for an argument, and all he gets is a lecture about how awesome the guy is.

[Saurdaukar]

I don't like exaggerations.

The P-47M does NOT make 375mph OTD in WEP.

The F4U-4 goes about 350 OTD without WEP. The P-47M goes about 338.

The P-47M does NOT climb at close to 4,000 fpm.

The P-47M does NOT out-turn Spitfires.

I love exagerations and blanket statements for shock value.  Thats why I make them.

In an M-Jug, I bested a Spit 8, OTD, starting at a complete disadvantage, in about 30 seconds.

If I listed who the stick was, you'd be shocked.  The 47M is an outstanding aircraft and perfectly capable of handling itself in almost any situation.  Take it up with a light fuel load, six guns and 267 RPG and be amazed.

I love it... but it almost seems unfair.

In all seriousness - my comparison to the F4U4 is based on what I believe to be the Corsair's primary strength - its zoom climb.  If I have the flaps out in a U4, Im in trouble.  To that end, both the U4 and the M have the ability to recover altitude after a dive with almost zero loss in initial E. 

For someone like me, who prefers to fight in the vert and counts on ropes, more often than not, due to poor (read: non-existent) gunnery skills, thats huge.

[crazyivan]

Someone asks for an argument, and all he gets is a lecture about how awesome the guy is.

[R 105]

I have never used any P-47 except in missions some one else put together until the 47M. It is great in a dive I ran down a 262 in one the other day from a 4k alt advantage. I like the 47M wtg HTC.

[shreck]

, im going to mop the arena with you.

That's cause you're a superhero! The spandex and cape give you away           

[Bear76]

That's cause you're a superhero! The spandex and cape give you away           

Thought you were collecting your AH pension in the nursing home?