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Offline Getback

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Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« on: October 24, 2009, 03:16:26 AM »
the uncoordinated.

Flew with a twisty stick for about 12 years. Last year I purchased a complete CH setup including rudders. However I still find myself flailing and bobbling because I keep forgetting to use the rudders for slow speed turns. Just a darn good thing CH makes such durable products or that sucker would have been twisted from it's socket.

Tonight I bobbled again, fortunately the guy couldn't capitalize since I had already trimmed his airplane a bit.
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Offline zack1234

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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 05:28:22 AM »
My ex wife looks like a monkey.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 06:10:54 AM »
When I made that transition, I put some time in just straffing GVs and ground targets to develop using my feet instead of twisting the stick, since it ususally requires some fine tuning with the rudders to line up.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 06:57:21 AM »
I bought some rudders pedals saitek ones, I also keep forgetting to use them.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 08:41:19 AM »
   I was having a discussion with a squadie a while back and I discovered that his rudders worked opposite to mine.  So I have a question?

  In a real Airplane if you depress the Left Rudder the plane should angle Left?   (thats the way mine currently is) 

   I feel silly to ask since I have been flying online since 1997 with rudders.


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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 09:12:03 AM »
Quote from: Getback on October 24, 2009, 03:16:26 AM
the uncoordinated.

Flew with a twisty stick for about 12 years. Last year I purchased a complete CH setup including rudders. However I still find myself flailing and bobbling because I keep forgetting to use the rudders for slow speed turns. Just a darn good thing CH makes such durable products or that sucker would have been twisted from it's socket.

Tonight I bobbled again, fortunately the guy couldn't capitalize since I had already trimmed his airplane a bit.

what helped me a lot.....i went into the ta, got in a 38, and went out over the lake. EVERYONE likes to shoot 38's.....so i had a conga line behind me, twisting n turning at low speed. you'll get used to em reeeaaallll fast that way.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 09:24:29 AM »
Quote from: Helm on October 24, 2009, 08:41:19 AM
In a real Airplane if you depress the Left Rudder the plane should angle Left?   (thats the way mine currently is)

Yes.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 09:59:08 AM »
Fortunately, I never used a twisty stick.  For me the change was from the a s d keys to my feet, and that took about a month.  Even with pedals, keeping the ball centered just by the feel of the virtual aircraft is anything but easy.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 11:40:17 AM »
Quote from: Helm on October 24, 2009, 08:41:19 AM
   I was having a discussion with a squadie a while back and I discovered that his rudders worked opposite to mine.  So I have a question?

  In a real Airplane if you depress the Left Rudder the plane should angle Left?   (thats the way mine currently is) 

   I feel silly to ask since I have been flying online since 1997 with rudders.


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Correct.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 12:01:29 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on October 24, 2009, 09:12:03 AM
what helped me a lot.....i went into the ta, got in a 38, and went out over the lake. EVERYONE likes to shoot 38's.....so i had a conga line behind me, twisting n turning at low speed. you'll get used to em reeeaaallll fast that way.

Now that is a great idea!
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 12:44:48 PM »
It just felt more natural for my rudders to act like a steering wheel. If you pushed left foot foward and right foot back then you would go right. So I changed mine back when I first got them. I guess it's what you get used to.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 03:22:40 PM »
helm,
 
Hit the left rudder-pedal and the rudder vanes to the left and the real plane turns left. That's how real planes do it.

Tell your squadie there is a place in control setup where he can reverse his faulty rudder.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 04:46:05 PM »
I went the other way, from rudder pedals to a twisty stick.  I miss the pedals a lot, but they were unusual, homebuilt.  They worked great when a gameport was the standard, but when I had to move up to USB they got flaky.  After fighting the gameport to USB adapter several months I gave up and bought a twisty stick.

The designer of my home built pedals has updated his design for USB: http://www.raafwarbirds.org.au/pedals.htm

I tried the CH pedals long before I built my own.  I didn't like the soft feel.  Almost no resistance.  And i didn't like when the pedals snapped hard when moving through the neutral center position.
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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 06:35:55 PM »
I want to be that kitten please....

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Re: Rudders, they are not for the lazy or
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 11:23:28 PM »
Quote from: Getback on October 24, 2009, 12:01:29 PM
Now that is a great idea!

i forgto to mention...it's a friggin BLAST too.  :aok
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