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F4U-4 vs P-38L
« on: October 25, 2009, 03:29:21 PM »
There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2009, 03:31:45 PM »
There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.

Find me one SAPP guy who says the P38J is 'better' than the F4U4.   :lol

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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2009, 03:35:38 PM »
Its not just the SAPP guys. In the game a lot more I think. If this is just a perception then let it die. But seems like there has to be a showdown between the Hogs and 38's sooner or later...
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2009, 04:01:03 PM »
The P38 is a poor fighter plane.



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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2009, 04:05:54 PM »
On paper the F4U-4 will eat a P-38 for lunch!  But it comes down to many factors with you play a game like this.  Either plane could win a dogfight but chances are the F4u-4 SHOULD win!

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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2009, 04:07:35 PM »
With equal pilots, the F4U-4 wins >90% of the time.
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2009, 04:15:13 PM »
About the only things the P-38L has on the F4U-4 is ordinance load, (10 rockets vs. 8) high-speed roll, (but not significantly) stability at stall speeds (counter-rotating props eliminating torque) and placement of the gun package (debatable which has the superior armament with only the single 20mm and only 150 rounds, but both are more than adequate). The -4 is faster, accelerates quicker, is more maneuverable and has a higher sustained rate of climb, and I'd give the F4U the clear advantage in high-speed maneuverability (except rate of roll as mentioned before). I'm not sure on zoom as I've never tested it, but I've rarely had a P-38 catch or escape me in the vertical when I'm in a -4 from a near or co-E start (that being said, the -4 is generally capable of creating a starting advantage anyway).

The 38L more evenly matches with the 1A. The 1A is faster, but the 38 gains the advantage in rate of climb and acceleration.
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2009, 04:34:10 PM »
There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.

Funny, the only one that I've seen make such a comment has been you.


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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 04:35:03 PM »
The P38 is a poor fighter plane.

LOL!  Probably because you're not very good in anything but a Spitfire.


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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 04:46:00 PM »
The "4" is a Beast. Call it what it is.
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 04:47:31 PM »
The uber P38 can own a -4 IF you now how to fight it.
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 04:57:01 PM »
The uber P38 can own a -4 IF you now how to fight it.

Tough thing about the Hog, especially the -4, is that there really IS no one way to fight it.
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 04:59:36 PM »
The uber P38 can own a -4 IF the -4 doesn't know how to fight.

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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 05:06:03 PM »
LOL!  Probably because you're not very good in anything but a Spitfire.


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I've flown the P38 more than enough times to know what it's capable of. I don’t magically lose all my knowledge on aerial combat manoeuvres when I jump into another plane you know. LOL!
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Re: F4U-4 vs P-38L
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 06:01:53 PM »
About the only things the P-38L has on the F4U-4 is ordinance load, (10 rockets vs. 8) high-speed roll, (but not significantly) stability at stall speeds (counter-rotating props eliminating torque) and placement of the gun package (debatable which has the superior armament with only the single 20mm and only 150 rounds, but both are more than adequate). The -4 is faster, accelerates quicker, is more maneuverable and has a higher sustained rate of climb, and I'd give the F4U the clear advantage in high-speed maneuverability (except rate of roll as mentioned before). I'm not sure on zoom as I've never tested it, but I've rarely had a P-38 catch or escape me in the vertical when I'm in a -4 from a near or co-E start (that being said, the -4 is generally capable of creating a starting advantage anyway).
I agree with everything except for the armament comment. Even though you may argue on paper that six .50s = four.50s and one 20mm, you need to remember location. the nose mounted guns in the P38 make it a much deadlier gun package.

As an avid P38 pile-it. I can say the F4U4 is a superior in a one on one fight. The P38 would be a better escort fighter because of range