Hitlers obsession?

[zack1234]

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[Angus]

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[RufusLeaking]

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[RufusLeaking]

Back to the opening post, Hitler was against Communism.

In his early years, during the interwar years, there were often street battles between Communists and Fascists in Germany.

He thought he could make peace with Britain and set up a world where Britannia ruled the waves and Germania was a continental power.

 

[Dadsguns]

Was he obsessed with the east, HELL YES!!!

RC

One of those reasons was the Industrial and Oil rich areas that he needed to sustain his own efforts in the war in the East.

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[RipChord929]

As usual in any thread about Hitler and the Nazi's, we see alot of fact, and fiction, and sillyness... The real problem is that, no one person, can pull it all together... Simply because TOO MUCH HAPPENED!!

I've had a morbid fascination with the Nazi period since I was a kid.. Own MANY books, and have read MANY more on the topic... Greater minds, and Far more knowlegeable ppl than any of us, have tried to pull it all together in one work... They CAN'T!!!  Because by the time you get to the end, (the 45 end) you loose track of the beginning!
The historyline, (just from 1918 to 1939) of all the characters, and their activities, is so wound and twisted, that it is impossible to keep track of it all...  Even the ppl who lived and were part of it, can't do it!!!

Sure you can mark the major events, and make sense of them, but when you try to sort out the interrelationships between those events and ppl involved, you end up going in circles, LOL!!!   Truthfully, I think that was by design!

The best you can do, is take a piece at a time, and try to avoid the built in contradictions... There are MANY!!!
It could drive ya bonkers, tryin to figure it out!!! And it only gets worse, the farther we are removed from it by time..

No insult or finger pointing intended!!!

RC

[Anaxogoras]

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[oakranger]

As usual in any thread about Hitler and the Nazi's, we see alot of fact, and fiction, and sillyness... The real problem is that, no one person, can pull it all together... Simply because TOO MUCH HAPPENED!!

I've had a morbid fascination with the Nazi period since I was a kid.. Own MANY books, and have read MANY more on the topic... Greater minds, and Far more knowlegeable ppl than any of us, have tried to pull it all together in one work... They CAN'T!!!  Because by the time you get to the end, (the 45 end) you loose track of the beginning!
The historyline, (just from 1918 to 1939) of all the characters, and their activities, is so wound and twisted, that it is impossible to keep track of it all...  Even the ppl who lived and were part of it, can't do it!!!

Sure you can mark the major events, and make sense of them, but when you try to sort out the interrelationships between those events and ppl involved, you end up going in circles, LOL!!!   Truthfully, I think that was by design!

The best you can do, is take a piece at a time, and try to avoid the built in contradictions... There are MANY!!!
It could drive ya bonkers, tryin to figure it out!!! And it only gets worse, the farther we are removed from it by time..

No insult or finger pointing intended!!!

RC

All i asked if Hitler was obsessive with winning the war against Russia. 

[RipChord929]

All i asked if Hitler was obsessive with winning the war against Russia. 

Hey Oak

As I said earlier...
All ya have to do is, read Mien Kampf... Even 1/2 of it, It will answer that question in spades... In his own words!

RC

[Rich46yo]

When Germany declared war on the USA we had one of the smallest standing armies in the world.

He couldn't understand American ideals or American thinking cause he had never traveled here. To him the US was hopelessly crippled by INTL Jewry, our culture decadent due to the impact of lesser races. It never occurred to him that was our strength and that we'd be able to assemble a citizen/soldier/military machine unparalleled in all history. Hitler was hopelessly ignorant about a lot of things outside Germany and was kept so by the legions of bootlickers that followed him around. He wasn't a listener. Hitler was a talker. And he had no great scholastic background behind him since he had pretty much failed at schooling. Even as an artist/architect he had failed to get into a decent school.

On the other hand he held in his hands the reigns of a tremendously capable and industrious country. One that had gladly gave away their legal/union/human rights. And one thing you cant take away from Hitler, no matter what, was that in WW-l he was a good and loyal soldier who earned his Iron Cross the hard way. Wearing it proudly until his dieing day.

But to his dieing day he bragged about how he stood up to International Jewry.

Its interesting but its very possible that Hitler, who was born out of wedlock, had a Jewish father. His mother was a maid for a rich Jewish family that had a son about her age. Even Hitlers hatred of Jews didn't materialize until after he failed in life as a young man right before the great War. After wards, despite reality to the contrary, he and many German veterans had convinced themselves Germany was stabbed in the back by the Jews and Marxists back home which forced Germany to surrender.

The actual truth is Germany was broken. The Kaiser fled the country and the govt. in place signed the armistice of 1918, agreeing to the terms imposed by the Western powers. Unfortunately by crippling the German economy, never actually defeating Germany's army, never occupying the country, and allowing the power centers of Army/Monarchy/Industry to remain intact they set the stage for an even worse war. And they put in motion the chain of events that allowed an anonymous corporal to stand on the edge of world domination.

[BlauK]

All i asked if Hitler was obsessive with winning the war against Russia. 

Of course he had an obsession of beating Russia and Stalin. If not before, then at least when the battle of Stalingrad was raging. It was the turning point.

[Plawranc]

The United States involvement in Europe was a small potato really. The USA had to raise a conscript army and ship it to the UK complete with supplies and equipment. Now the way I see it is that as soon as the Germans declared war on the USSR they were doomed, Russia is too large of a landmass to conquer and while blitzkrieg worked on the open plains once they reached urban Russia around the Volga and Moscow they were halted.

This lack of momentum followed by a crippling Russian winter combined with a HUGE planning deficiency led to the complete destruction of the German ground forces. Now had this not materialized OR had Hitler been prepared, an invasion of Europe would have certainly failed. Without Russia and the UK the USA could not have fought the German military period.

So I think of it this way. Without England and Russia, Without Hitlers Stupidity = WW2 Lost

[SirFrancis]

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