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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2009, 07:19:38 PM »
I thought they kept them, but I could be wrong  :headscratch:.
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2009, 10:38:56 PM »
Here is one scenario that happened in Bucharest.

As the Russians approached the city the Germans began pulling back valuable hardware while commiting the luftwaffe and infantry to the battle. Stukas supported by 109s were attacking the advancing columns but it was obvious that a tactical withdrawal was in order. The Germans left Rumanians in charge of the allied POWs and they grew more and more nervous as the Russians drew nearer. Finally they opened the gates and released all the prisoners who then scattered and hid any plance they could find. An American Colonel found a Rumanian officer and talked him into flying him to Italy for a reward and capture by Americans versus Russians. So they removed the radio gear and the American officer crammed himself into the available space of a Bf109. The sign of surrender in those days was to fly with your gear down and this got them to the airfield where the situation was explained.

The 15th A.F. then cut orders for every available bomber fighter and attack aircraft available to join in a joint mission the following day. Bombers (B24s and B17s) had their bomb bays covered over with wooden planks in two layers to passenger the men home. Approaching Bucharest at 22000 feet the P47s and A36s set about destroying any resistance in the area while P51s and P38s held air superiority. The luftwaffe and German infantry were quickly swept from the area and the bombers began a spiral descent in to land. More than 1100 men awaited rescue and they boarded the planes with all sorts of souvenirs and eagerly consumed any rations made available.

After landing in Italy and following the celebration anyone that had any part in the rescue or celebration was deloused due to contact with the prisoners.

Now thats something I would love to see on film! Oh and BTW... the 8th A.F. got credit for this in the press.  :rolleyes:
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2009, 11:02:32 PM »
thats roadkill. The 15th got em out. Why did the 8th get credit?
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2009, 11:08:28 PM »
All the reporters (most anyway) were stationed in England. They got the press release and assumed a bit because of the censored information concerning bases having been removed and so on...
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2009, 11:10:12 PM »
that seems unfair  :headscratch:.
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2009, 11:10:57 PM »
NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!   Life is unfair.  :old:
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2009, 11:12:25 PM »
thats bullsoup. The 15th got em out. Why did the 8th get credit?

the 15th prolly didn't want to admit they got delouse?  but seriously, missions like often required required logistics from more than 1 divison etc.  also at the time it was war, so pretty much the pentagon, or whatever was called back then could basically print whatever they wanted as they saw fit, so they 8th did it :).  but if u ask me half the credit should go to the Romanians for not shooting the prisoners like they were supposed to, of course the Romanians were also looking for their own interest, but...

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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2009, 11:17:00 PM »
If you were offered the choice between freezing cold russia in a POW camp or a POW camp in england or the states, which would you choose?
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2009, 11:22:23 PM »
I dont think they were offered anything.  and btw russians didnt take prisioners.  find out how many germans who were captured at stalingrad and the other cities made it home after the war.  and oh yeah they even shot russians that were captured by the germans for failure to fight to the death.  war is hell and the glory goes to whoever has the connections  :salute

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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 03:37:00 AM »
There were many many German prisoners in Russian gulags following the war.
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2009, 07:53:48 AM »
RAF used a bunch of Mitchells for transport duties too, not sure if they were armed or not.
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2009, 05:28:19 PM »
There was transport versions of B24's made if your talking about those I would say yes :aok But our b24 with the ability to carry supplies in the game NO.

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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 06:59:06 PM »
There was transport versions of B24's made if your talking about those I would say yes :aok But our b24 with the ability to carry supplies in the game NO.

C-87 Liberator Express.  287 built in addition to an unknown amount of B-24s converted in the field.  In addition there was the C-87A VIP transport version and the C-109 dedicated fuel transport.  The US Navy operated 3 RY-1 (C-87s modified to carry 16 passengers), and 5 RY-2 (C-87 modified to carry 20 passengers). The British operated 6 LB-30A transports (mostly used to ferry RAF pilots to the US to ferry back fighters and other planes) and also the Lend-Lease variant of the RY-2, the RY-3 which was given the RAF designation Liberator C.IX.

Also, early model B-24s were used as long range transports between Britain and Egypt and also aided in the evacuation of Java.  I believe these were RAF Liberator IIs that were converted for this role.

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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 07:01:39 PM »
un armed in all the photos.
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Re: B-24s used for resupply
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2009, 07:04:17 PM »
Why not enable a resupply load for B-24s?  This was done routinely during WWII. Waddaya :Osay?

I would support this only if the option to air drop them is removed and they'd have to land to either off load supplies or troops.  The C-87 transports (converted B-24s) did not air drop their supplies.


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