Surviving the MA lonewolf

[Steve]

To me the 'timid' pilot is the one that just doesn't want to fight, not how they fight.  The player that runs from an enagement and then only comes back into the fight to pick when the other player is already engaged in another fight is an example of a timid pilot.  The pilot that comes in on the merge with guns firing and then runs for home or help, that's another example of a timid pilot.  Basically, any enagement that the player avoids that may result in the player being shot down.

ack-ack

You bet


 I tend to bristle when someone equates E fighting or BnZ  to timid. I'll grant that there are guys who sit on a  perch and will not engage in anything that  you or I'd consider a fight. These guys certainly are timid.
  
My perception of Shuffler's posts is that he thinks anyone who fights in the vert "BnZ" is timid and I take umbrage at that.

[Shuffler]

There is where you missed it completely.

I said they won't fight. You were defending that type play or lack thereof. You were also saying that folks that fight are the same way... made absolutely no sense.

Your chatting privs are suspended for 2 seconds.

[Steve]

I never realized how immature steve is....  just too funny.

 

I'll tell you steve... if your SA is bad then stay high, stay fast, and look for those already commited. Pretty easy stuff there. That is why nimble posted this to the new folks.

Your complex reminds me of the kid is a leather jacket and sunglasses... sitting on his tricycle.

Geesh get over it. You obviously have not read what I posted.  

Oh yeah one other thing... score means nothing here in AH.  

You personal attacks aside(what took you so long?)   Both my post and the OP's post make mention of the need for Good SA so you are in no position to talk about who read what.    Once again you put your style of play as somehow better than another. To be successful in either, you have to possess much of the same skill set.
 
 I'll break it to you again, and as gently as I can: Circle fighting requires no more skill or SA than E fighting.

[Shuffler]

lol well you don't have to worry since I never see you in the game. I don't fly that high.

[Steve]

lol well you don't have to worry since I never see you in the game. I don't fly that high.

LOL.   Keep taking shots from your uninformed position.  This way, I won't have to put forth any effort to make you look foolish, you'll do it all on your own.   

[Nemisis]

It depends on what  your flying. If your flying an N1K and won't TnB anyone and insist on BnZing or slashing by a 400+ mph, then yes, they are timid. But a P-51 refusing to turnfight a zeke isn't timid.

[Shuffler]

LOL.   Keep taking shots from your uninformed position.  This way, I won't have to put forth any effort to make you look foolish, you'll do it all on your own.    

There you go... keep looking down on us. You have to be used to that by now. 

[Steve]

I'm ignorant 

I know.

[Shuffler]

I know.

Lay on the couch and talk to this guy 

He can help you.

[Steve]

Lay on the couch and talk to this guy 

He can help you.

dude you're nonsensical. 

I'll keep having fun in the game, you go ahead and tell others they aren't having fun.   

[BnZs]

I'll do you one better nimble. Count the red guys, don't count the green guys, when you're figuring the odds. Unless there is alot more green than red, then count your chances of being the one to bag the red guy as nil and move on.

In my experience, it is just too darn hard for multiples with an E advantage to use you for bnz target practice with little chance of returning the favor. Then there is also the fact that no MA crowd is made up of one type...basically you can expect there to be much faster AND much more maneuverable craft in every crowd just salivating to put their one-two on you.

When I win EVERY 1v1 with whoever in whatever, then I'll deliberately start hunting 1v2s and greater.

[Shuffler]

dude you're nonsensical. 

I'll keep having fun in the game, you go ahead and tell others they aren't having fun.   

HAHA and you call me nonsensical.... most of your posts here have been offbase. All because your lack of reading other's posts.

[Stoney]

When I win EVERY 1v1 with whoever in whatever, then I'll deliberately start hunting 1v2s and greater.

Well put.

Steve, you're never going to get anywhere with him.

[Steve]

HAHA and you call me nonsensical.... most of your posts here have been offbase. All because your lack of reading other's posts.

Well now you're talking in circles, just how you fly.    

I am pretty sure why you put down anyone who doesn't fly in circles. By telling the world that it's not the kills, it's the fights, and by telling them that turning in circles is so much better than BnZ, you've got a built in excuse for your frequent deaths and infrequent kills in the game.  You can go straight to the: "I was turnfighting and got picked" book of excuses. WTG.

Again, you should take your own advice: Score doesn't matter.   Having fun matters. Keep judging, I'll keep having fun.  

[nimble]

I'll do you one better nimble. Count the red guys, don't count the green guys, when you're figuring the odds. Unless there is alot more green than red, then count your chances of being the one to bag the red guy as nil and move on.

In my experience, it is just too darn hard for multiples with an E advantage to use you for bnz target practice with little chance of returning the favor. Then there is also the fact that no MA crowd is made up of one type...basically you can expect there to be much faster AND much more maneuverable craft in every crowd just salivating to put their one-two on you.

When I win EVERY 1v1 with whoever in whatever, then I'll deliberately start hunting 1v2s and greater.

TBH being outnumbered doesn't bother me if I have some E. I often feint a pass/dive on one "juicy" target like a low p47, 110, or other ride that people normally pick out as an easy kill when I am really after a dangerous plane to me(109, la7, spit16, p51). I always target the planes that can build E quickly or have a high top end speed first, starting with the one with the most stored/kinetic E first. This is where the seperation comes into play I talk about originally. I'll lead that target away from the pack and engage in a 1v1 if possible.