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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2009, 01:03:39 PM »
OK. Sorry, I forgot exactly what it was. Either way, the germans took into account that a steep enough dive would cause the bomb to hit the propeller. I think we should make it so you can't drop at any angle that would cause the bomb to hit the plane.
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2009, 01:19:19 PM »
nothing should be allowed to dive bomb at any angle that would cause the bomb to come into contact with their plane after release. The stuka had a special bomb deflector mounted so its bomb wouldn't destroy it's propeller.

Seeing as the B-25 has no propellers on the nose, none of this should apply to it (except the negative-g bit, of course) :D
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2009, 01:39:08 PM »
You still shouldn't be able to drop it the bomb would hit or glanse of the plane in any way.
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »
You still shouldn't be able to drop it. The bomb would hit or glance off the plane anyway.

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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2009, 01:54:02 PM »
you should have changed the "t" in "it" to an "f".
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2009, 01:56:43 PM »
Damn, have to update my squeaker translator to version 2.5.  :neener:
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2009, 02:00:46 PM »
Its really not that hard to understand Bronk. If you feel like flaming go flame the OP.
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2009, 02:03:46 PM »
Its really not that hard to understand Bronk. If you feel like flaming go flame the OP.

Why.. I want lancastucas stopped.

Boy are you thin skinned.
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2009, 02:07:31 PM »
I'm not upset Bronk. And I'm sorry, I meant flame those that like lancstukas.
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2009, 08:17:03 PM »
You need to look at how the release mechanism worked in the real plane.
If it couldn't release after a certain angle then is shouldn't release in here.

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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2009, 12:18:36 AM »
You need to look at how the release mechanism worked in the real plane.
If it couldn't release after a certain angle then is shouldn't release in here.


actually, one could take that a bit further and say if the aircraft didnt perform that role in the real deal then why allow it in AH?  I'll be the first in line to say that Lancasters did NOT do laps around a single, or two, or three gv's in order to get a perfect angle on them for a dive bomb.  I dont even have to look that up.  Lancs may have done low level bombing raids at 1000ft and lower, but dive bombing gv's, or cv's, etc was not in the SOP.  They were far too valuable to expose them in that manner AND there were far more effective aircraft for that role (direct support) than the Lanc.

Lancasters performed level bombing, while using the bomb sight, and the pilot didnt even have control of the aircraft. 
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2009, 05:39:36 AM »
actually, one could take that a bit further and say if the aircraft didnt perform that role in the real deal then why allow it in AH?  I'll be the first in line to say that Lancasters did NOT do laps around a single, or two, or three gv's in order to get a perfect angle on them for a dive bomb.  I dont even have to look that up.  Lancs may have done low level bombing raids at 1000ft and lower, but dive bombing gv's, or cv's, etc was not in the SOP.  They were far too valuable to expose them in that manner AND there were far more effective aircraft for that role (direct support) than the Lanc.

Lancasters performed level bombing, while using the bomb sight, and the pilot didnt even have control of the aircraft. 
Nevermind IIRC they opperated mostly at night...something we dont have.
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2009, 02:21:53 PM »
actually, one could take that a bit further and say if the aircraft didnt perform that role in the real deal then why allow it in AH?  I'll be the first in line to say that Lancasters did NOT do laps around a single, or two, or three gv's in order to get a perfect angle on them for a dive bomb.  I dont even have to look that up.  Lancs may have done low level bombing raids at 1000ft and lower, but dive bombing gv's, or cv's, etc was not in the SOP.  They were far too valuable to expose them in that manner AND there were far more effective aircraft for that role (direct support) than the Lanc.

Lancasters performed level bombing, while using the bomb sight, and the pilot didnt even have control of the aircraft. 

The 2 concepts are not even close to the same. If it could, vs if it did. Where do you draw the line on if it did? Most thing done in the main arena were never done in the war. Things like going out alone in a tank. Things like spawning rapidly to defend a base. I.E. What you propose would be the first thing ever changed just because it was never tried in the war.  But then again the main reason it wasn't don in real life, is it made you very likely to die before you would return to base.

Also the physics are not just about angle of release. In the calculations , the G load must also be considered because the  plane then flys away from the bomb after drop.

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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2009, 02:25:48 PM »
Point remains that you can drop bombs from a Lancaster while inverted. :banana:
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Re: Stop Lancstuckas
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2009, 03:10:52 PM »
I would like to see collisions between the airframe and the bombs modeled, but I don't think that there should be artificial tools added to stop heavy bombers from slope bombing.
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