Iran war games?

[Motherland]

Becuase we just cant trust anybody anymore.

Iran Is a KNOWN hater of america and Isreal.

Isreal will not stand and watch Iran produce a nuclear ANYTHING for use as either a dirty bomb or atomic bomb.

Dirty bombs still have the ability to kill millions and Israel is surrounded by people who are trying to kill them and who are allies to Iran.

So yeah.

So killing innocent Iranian civilians who, if we didn't know before this summer we know now, are largely NOT supporters of the current regime, is justifiable by the suspicion that the Iranian government may try to kill innocent Israelis or Americans?

Also, by your logic the United States would be a completely legitimate target for Iran (which I'm not saying it is)

Bomb everybody that is a credible threat to homeland security. the US is quite obviously a threat to Iranian security
A country that openly hates america and threatens it. A pretty significant number of Americans and certainly the last administration come/came pretty close to hating Iran (or do openly)
Bomb those that are willing to use a weapon to kill innocent civilians with no tactical worth at all. What do you think the American nuclear arsenal would be used for?
At one point you must draw a line. You certainly must.

[Die Hard]

Bomb everybody that is a credible threat to homeland security.

I remember something similar being said about another ME country a few years ago.

A country that openly hates america and threatens it.

When did they threaten America, except to defend themselves against a US/Israeli attack?

Bomb those that are willing to use a weapon to kill innocent civilians with no tactical worth at all.

How many American civilians have they killed. How many civilians of any nationality (other than their own) have they killed?

My question to you diehard is... Are you from the United States?

What if I am, is that relevant?

[sandwich]

We're not bombing the cities. Just the Nuclear facilites. Unlike what Iran would do which is bomb cities with no strategic or tactical value whatsoever.

All it takes is 1 bomb to take them out. Extremely minimal loss of life considering the circumstances.

And as I've already stated WE wouldnt be the ones to do it in the first place. Israel would. Iran's threat to Israel is far too great for them to sit on their tulips and wait to be attacked. Far too great.

We do openly dislike Iran but you dont see us have parades burning Iranian flags and shouting "Death to IRAN!, DEATH TO IRAN!" Do you?

We're not a threat to security in Iran.

The vast nuclear arsenal was built up in the screaming match that was the cold war. The invention and mass production of nuclear weapons is the biggest mistake mankind has ever made. Cant find the words right now to explain why we have so many nukes so I'm just gonna put "No we shouldnt have them."

And yes we should always have to draw a line somewhere. Not us, but the world. The league of nations aint doing crap right now so We're just gonna have to deal with this ourselves.

That goes for you too germany. They have the balls to send supporters of the Kahled Sheik Mohammed to help him not get the death penalty.
It seems they have forgotten theyre roots.

Ps. PLEASE DONT SKUZZIFY ME!!

[warhed]

Then why bomb it?

While leaving political discussions out of this, you bomb it to, get this, shut it down...

[Motherland]

We're not bombing the cities. Just the Nuclear facilites. Unlike what Iran would do which is bomb cities with no strategic or tactical value whatsoever. You don't even know that Iran is developing nuclear capabilities for weapons purposes, and now you're claiming that you know how the possibly-being-developed weapons would be used?

All it takes is 1 bomb to take them out. Extremely minimal loss of life considering the circumstances. That someone may be developing something to kill people?

And as I've already stated WE wouldnt be the ones to do it in the first place. Israel would. Iran's threat to Israel is far too great for them to sit on their tulips and wait to be attacked. Far too great.

We do openly dislike Iran but you dont see us have parades burning Iranian flags and shouting "Death to IRAN!, DEATH TO IRAN!" Do you? No, only the right wing media

We're not a threat to security in Iran.  How can you say that while you're sitting there saying that Iran should be attacked?

The vast nuclear arsenal was built up in the screaming match that was the cold war. The invention and mass production of nuclear weapons is the biggest mistake mankind has ever made. Cant find the words right now to explain why we have so many nukes so I'm just gonna put "No we shouldnt have them." So you support nuclear disarmament?

And yes we should always have to draw a line somewhere. Not us, but the world. The league of nations aint doing crap right now so We're just gonna have to deal with this ourselves. That's a good observation, the League of Nations hasn't done anything since it was dissolved.

That goes for you too germany. They have the balls to send supporters of the Kahled Sheik Mohammed to help him not get the death penalty. God forbid that the beacon of free speech and liberty in this world should allow free speech and liberty
It seems they have forgotten theyre roots. What does this even mean?

[Die Hard]

While leaving political discussions out of this, you bomb it to, get this, shut it down...

If it's not anywhere near weapons grade uranium, why bother?

[sandwich]

1) The entire thing is a series of guidelines. If it fits the criteria then yes they should be attacked. Key word is CREDIBLE.

2) You cant be serious, can you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92myDzAFgU4

3) By supporting Islamic terrorism, About 2,976 people. Most of them civilians.

4) I'm just curious.

to diehard

[Motherland]

3) By supporting Islamic terrorism, About 2,976 people. Most of them civilians.

There's a HUGE difference between Sunnis and Shi'ites in the Muslim world; Al Queada happens to be Sunni and the country of Iran Shi'ite by a large majority.
You remember a couple years back when Iraq plunged into civil war? That was between these two religious groups. Even the United States has used the split between these factions to its advantage. Iran itself funded Shi'ite groups in this period to fight the Sunnis (ex Al Queada)
Also, the vast majority of terrorism, particularly against Americans, is commited by Sunnis (Al Queada)

Think of it like Catholics vs Protestants. You only need to go back to- oh, yesterday- to find examples of Catholic vs. Protestant terrorism

[sandwich]

I've never seen a rally against Iran before. Even fox news doent blatently say death to Iran. Youre being very obtuse.

 I support nuclear disarnament. If I had my perfect world each country would be allowed only 10 nuclear warheads. Only for those that already developed them. Annual weapons inspections.

 Once more, THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN SOMEWHERE.

 Its a nickname because the UN is pissing me off. The UN seemes to have been castrated. They sit and wait. Hence, League Of Nations.

 Our country was attacked. We're trying them in our country. Leave us to do what should have been done years ago.

 You do know what that means. Youre just acting clueless.

[sandwich]

There's a HUGE difference between Sunnis and Shi'ites in the Muslim world; Al Queada happens to be Sunni and the country of Iran Shi'ite by a large majority.
You remember a couple years back when Iraq plunged into civil war? That was between these two religious groups. Even the United States has used the split between these factions to its advantage. Iran itself funded Shi'ite groups in this period to fight the Sunnis (ex Al Queada)
Also, the vast majority of terrorism, particularly against Americans, is commited by Sunnis (Al Queada)

Think of it like Catholics vs Protestants. You only need to go back to- oh, a few days ago- to find examples of Catholic vs. Protestant terrorism

So they say "Death to america" But they mean "We love america"? Am I missing something?

[warhed]

If it's not anywhere near weapons grade uranium, why bother?

Again avoiding political discussions, a civilian nuclear power program requires fuel, in the form of radioactive elements.  Fuel is less refined, weapons more refined.  If you have the facilities to make fuel, you have the facilities to make weapons.

[Die Hard]

1) The entire thing is a series of guidelines. If it fits the criteria then yes they should be attacked. Key word is CREDIBLE.

After Iraq how can any WMD claims be considered credible?

2) You cant be serious, can you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92myDzAFgU4

Death to America! Death to America! Death to America! ... Ok, I'll give you that one.

3) By supporting Islamic terrorism, About 2,976 people. Most of them civilians.

That few? I would have thought it was a lot more. Now... How many civilians have we killed in the same time frame? Tens of thousands in Iraq alone.

4) I'm just curious.

Killed the cat you know...   I don't like to have my opinions labeled by gender, creed, race or nationality.

[Motherland]

So they say "Death to america" But they mean "We love america"? Am I missing something?

Do you honestly think that all Iranians think like that? Even the majority? After the country almost summer with the mass protests following Ahmedinejad's re-election, knowing full well what the consequences could be? Now that some 80 Iranians sit in jail, 5 have been executed for what happened this summer?
How many Americans gave their lives after the disputed 2000 election? Or in 2008?

You do know what that means. Youre just acting clueless.

Honestly that sentence makes no sense to me. What are Germany's 'roots'? What do they have to do with anything?

[warhed]

Some of the reactor containment units are of questionable strength as well.

Just curious, you are referring to the Iranian designs aren't you?  Speaking just with my knowledge of American nuclear plant designs, our containment buildings are designed specifically to at least be able to take the force of a 747 crashing into it, without being compromised.  And there's still the giant iron reactor vessel itself...

[sandwich]

After Iraq how can any WMD claims be considered credible?
Any threat should be taken seriously. In fact We KNOW that thyey have uranium producing facilities.

Death to America! Death to America! Death to America! ... Ok, I'll give you that one.


That few? I would have thought it was a lot more. Now... How many civilians have we killed in the same time frame? Tens of thousands in Iraq alone.That's the 9/11 death tally. Thats 1 thing. And no, we have not killed that many, especially not blatently.


Killed the cat you know...   I don't like to have my opinions labeled by gender, creed, race or nationality.
I'm a human, so therefore curiosity enriches the mind. Just answer this... Are you not from america? I dont need specififcs.