Author Topic: P-47M & N !! Gimme,gimme,gimme!! (Read 2050 times)

Widewing · « **Reply #60 on:** January 02, 2002, 08:43:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Zigrat:
vermillion

imo the air war was over with ve day.

Huh?! Gee, better not tell the families of all those USAAF, USN and USMC aircrew who did in action during May, June, July and August of 1945. This period was the most active of the war for the USAAF in the Pacific.

Go to Carter and Mueller'sChronology of AAF in WWII and tell me if it sounds like it was over after reading about all the operations flown by the AAF during the above mentioned period.

Gripen: You can get a good idea of P-47N operations by reading through the monthly overviews of fighter operations out of Ie Shima, beginning with their combat debut in May. While the P-47N wasn't involved for very long, they were extremely active.

My regards,

Widewing

K West · « **Reply #61 on:** January 03, 2002, 07:34:00 AM »

So there's a new line in the sand marking a WWII fighter as being a valide candidate for inclusion AH?

No longer is it a matter of argument as to whether it was produced-and-deployed, versus "saw" combat, but now the ammount and quality itself of the combat by any specific aircraft type saw is being used as the new bar?

That's could suck real bad for people who'd always wanted AH to include 1939/1940 Polish, Czech, Dutch and French planes. After all the pre-Battle of Britain air war was over in a flash and that breif airwar period never saw astronimical kill counts that were seen over the Ruhr and Der Fatherland in 1944-45. Hell we'd never see an AR-80 either with the new requirements some would have HTC use.

Westy

[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: O'Westy ]

Vermillion · « **Reply #62 on:** January 05, 2002, 08:18:00 PM »

Thats EXACTLY my point Widewing !

My grandfather lost half his stomach in the phillipines, liberating Bataan, but that didn't really count because the war was mostly over, did it?

Dawvgrid · « **Reply #63 on:** January 07, 2002, 07:49:00 AM »

If you implement the p47 m&n,,,,,,then dont
forget the DO 335 pheil.

K West · « **Reply #64 on:** January 07, 2002, 07:51:00 AM »

"then dont forget the DO 335 pheil."

It was in production so absolutley!

Westy

eddiek · « **Reply #65 on:** January 07, 2002, 08:54:00 AM »

Aww, not that junk again........

P47M/N saw action, we already went thru this over a year ago.

P47M production close enough to Ta152 production to justify it's introduction.
Not Do335........in production shouldn't be considered unless you gonna open the game up for ALL planes that were in production. That means F8F, F7F, P51H, P80.......personally, as much as I would like to see them, IMO they have no place in AH.
P47N saw lots of use in the Pacific. I would prefer the P47M, but whatever Pyro decides to go with will be fine with me.
But leave the fantasy planes out, please.

Vector · « **Reply #66 on:** January 07, 2002, 12:18:00 PM »

S!
P-47M's range is somewhat pathetic which would make N more suitable to MA. Just think about this; you start your P-47M and after crossing the end of the runway, 50% of your fuel is gone!

P-47N needs just a little additional art work; stretch D-25's wings little and multiply power by x.x,no? (Ups, did I really say D-25?), perk it.
And pleeeeaaaasee add paddle blade prop to D-11 (heck, I'd pay few perkies for it)!

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 09, 2002, 03:24:00 PM »

August 2000 there was a Jug convention in MN, and the guys there talked about the incredible damage they took in them. One guy wrote that he was under ground fire, and upon landing he noticed a 37MM shell had gone straight through the engine, and the engine never uttered a word. I wish I kept the article, I know I have it around the house somewhere.

There go my last two cents...

eddiek · « **Reply #68 on:** January 09, 2002, 03:35:00 PM »

Actually, the N model would take more work than that vector.
The wings would have to stretched I think 18 inches per side and squared off.
Honestly tho, who needs the range anyway, at least in the MA?
The P47M, at least to me, would be the ultimate Jug to take into a furball.
From what I can tell, the only things Pyro and company would need to change would be cosmetic, different markings on the D-30 (??), take a little weight off, and add the power from the higher output engine in the M models.
Untouchable? No! Fun? Heck yes!

Sancho · « **Reply #69 on:** January 09, 2002, 04:23:00 PM »

P-47M was fast and climbed very well. As such it would be a good E fighter at mid to high altitudes. On the deck, other planes would still be faster--pony, temp, la7, etc.

Now the N rolled faster than any other jug and turned better too. It has speed rivaling the M... only 10 mph slower. It's climb wasn't as good as the M, but it was a little better than the D. Numbers are quoted above in this thread.

All in all, the N would be a better all around plane for the main arena, able to run when needed and turnfight better than even the dreaded "spit-bolt" D-11.

I'd rather fly an N, despite the M being the 56th FG's ultimate ride.

laz · « **Reply #70 on:** January 10, 2002, 06:23:00 PM »

ATTENTION: I AM PORKING THIS POST.

Screw jugs, you have 3 of them already. I want a green/black p38 with yellow trim =). All a new p47 would get is shot down, becasue all p47's suck badly=) porking is complete =)

=Twin Engined Devils=