Auto Puffy Ack Question

[pervert]

Why do you think they feared flak?  Because it looked scary?  No, because it regularly killed them as soon as it appeared.  One minute clear skies, the next they turned black with little puffy clouds, planes were ripped in half, wings taken off, tales blown apart.  One single shell from an 88 could easily kill anything we had in the sky.  And guess what?  It did.
Flak killed more bombers than even German fighters did.  
To say that flak was merely psychological terror is insane.  Read a book, the history channel and military channel are not going to be able to give you the sorts of stories and first hand accounts a book can.
Here is a good one to start out on:  http://www.amazon.com/Flying-Flak-Alley-Personal-Accounts/dp/0786437073

Your still answering parts you want to answer here I don't see the relevance?? We are veering off onto bombers here perhaps I should make my original statement more specific that this is in a 109 I'm always hit in the only bombers I fly is the ju87 from time to time I still find this to hard to believe that without warning I can stray into the edge of a flak zone from a cv and have my engine killed with the very first burst. Judging from other people's comments in this thread the bombers in game are not as easily shot down despite being a lot bigger and a lot slower. This kind of thing so far from a cv doesn't benefit anyone it just makes for a wasted frustrating journey and takes away from the playing experience.

[mensa180]

How about this:

Group A:  People who regularly fly fighters
Group B: those who fly bombers

One day have all the group As fly bombers and all the group Bs fly fighters, now tell me how often bombers are killed by flak compared to how often fighters are.

[Shuffler]

Someone please change Mensa's diaper..... he's been spreading poop again.   

[jd]

Check out "the wild blue..the men and boys who flew the B-24's over Germany" by Stephen E. Ambrose, theres no denying first hand account of how terrifiying flak was.

[MajWoody]

I get killed or damaged by first round bursts quite often.

[AWwrgwy]

I appreciate the effort on your part with the pictures and yes there are hundreds of ack bursts but the picture being in existence alone is proof that the ack isn't that accurate ie blowing you out of the sky with the first shot the minute your in range as it does in the game. You seem to be not reading what I've wrote and instead are offering me up proof that lots of ack existed in ww2 which I never disputed.

The quote from McDeath's picture/post is pretty much the same as I hear on any programme I've ever watched on it. Stating that it was a psychological terror as much as a real threat. I'm not disputing that planes didn't get shot down by it but it doesn't say something like

 "as we crossed over the Mereseberg area hundreds of flak guns cut loose my plane was hit straight away and as I floated down in my chute I thought that flaks a nightmare!"

You don't hear first hand accounts from the ones who got killed by AAA, only from their friends who don't want to be next.

62,021 USAAF personnel were Killed in Action in the ETO.
41,057 USAAF personnel were captured or interned in the ETO.
Source(pdf)

No.  AAA wasn't accurate.  These must have been all Air to Air kills.  Chivalry.  Knights of the Air and what not.

Sure...   

Accuracy?  Read This

As for fighters that can't "take it"?  Easily killed by one hit? 

Of course they are!!! 

They're smaller.  They take less damage to kill.  One Tater and

This is a game.... Think of how coading is done.  It takes more cumulative "hit points" to kill a bomber than a fighter.  Durability.

In combat, fighters didn't fly through AAA when they didn't have to because it was dangerous.


Think about it.


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