When is the outsourcing gonna end?

[Motherland]

problem is that americans have to pay taxes out of their paychecks, and raise famileis........illegals don't. they are nothing but a strain on the system. they break the law every second of every day.

Outsourced workers in India and China have to pay income taxes as well...

i whole heartedly woulfd like to see them round each and every illegal up, and ship em back to where they came from. screw it if anyone complains.

 this is OUR country not theirs. WE make the rulse, not them.

I would agree...

[AWwrgwy]

 


Those jobs highschool grads use to get that paid 18$ an hour aren't available anymore.  They are being done by illegals!

 

Of what jobs do you speak of?


wrongway

[Spikes]

No kidding, I hate cheese on my burgers. Biggest PITA ever to order.

Same here.

[Belial]

Of what jobs do you speak of?


wrongway

Well speaking in my field of work....the small businesses for welders and fabricators are out of business.  The people they did work for want stuff done for pennies because they can get illegals to make it.  Next time your to a factory that employs 1,000 people look around and do a head count, those use to be done by people my ages parents.

[AKKuya]

The biggest reason factories hire non-Americans is that they don't complain about the unsafe working conditions, long hours, low pay, and 7 day work weeks.

[allaire]

The meat processing I guard has a sign up at the front office and on a bulletin board that says "We do not hire illegals."  Which is funny in that I know that there have some illegals working there by proxy.

[CAP1]

The meat processing I guard has a sign up at the front office and on a bulletin board that says "We do not hire illegals."  Which is funny in that I know that there have some illegals working there by proxy.

they probably have to post tht sign.


there's at least 2 dozen illegals working for 2 or the local alndscapers here in my area.

 a pizza joint i used to like....had great pizza, when the owner, his wife, and brother worked the place. he got busy, and hired mexicans. illegal ones.
 the quality of the food went down the crapper. i stopped going. as did others. he went under.

illegals will be the death of this country.

 that said, i have absolutely no problem with immigrants coming here......LEGALLY

[DrDea]

a pizza joint i used to like....had great pizza, when the owner, his wife, and brother worked the place. he got busy, and hired mexicans. illegal ones.
 the quality of the food went down the crapper. i stopped going. as did others. he went under.
illegals will be the death of this country.

  No.People HIREING illegals will be.

[CAP1]

  No.People HIREING illegals will be.

good point.

[MORAY37]

illegals will be the death of this country.

So, it's not the business owner's fault?  For hiring cheaper labor over more expensive labor that delivers a higher quality product?

Blaming illegals is myopic.  Our own profit driven greed is the problem, not a group of people trying to make a better life for themselves however they can.  Even poverty here is better than lower class in the countries most illegals come from.  

Constantly blaming the people that have the least for our problems is stupid.  At some point, you have to look inward.  Without people giving them jobs, there wouldn't be an issue.

[CAP1]

So, it's not the business owner's fault?  For hiring cheaper labor over more expensive labor that delivers a higher quality product?

Blaming illegals is myopic.  Our own profit driven greed is the problem, not a group of people trying to make a better life for themselves however they can.  Even poverty here is better than lower class where most illegals come from. 

Constantly blaming the people that have the least for our problems is stupid.  At some point, you have to look inward.  Without people giving them jobs, there wouldn't be an issue.

i run my own repair shop.

 i can pretty much guarantee ya that there is not an illegal in nj that'll do the job i'd need done with decent quality, for less than i'd pay a legal resident.

 that being said, you get what you pay for. i would NEVER even remotely consider hiring an illegal. and, yes, i think that there should be no fines for hiring them. only jail time. it won't take long with that in place before they can't get work....assuming it is enforced.

[MORAY37]

i run my own repair shop.

 i can pretty much guarantee ya that there is not an illegal in nj that'll do the job i'd need done with decent quality, for less than i'd pay a legal resident.

 that being said, you get what you pay for. i would NEVER even remotely consider hiring an illegal. and, yes, i think that there should be no fines for hiring them. only jail time. it won't take long with that in place before they can't get work....assuming it is enforced.

Agreed, to a point.

[Ruler2]

i yes, i think that there should be no fines for hiring them. only jail time. it won't take long with that in place before they can't get work....assuming it is enforced.

You're absolutely right! What's a couple thousand or million dollars to a big company like GM or ConAgra Foods, ya know?

[CAP1]

You're absolutely right! What's a couple thousand or million dollars to a big company like GM or ConAgra Foods, ya know?

i don't know if you're being sarcastic or serious.............but illegals need to go. come in legally, and they'll be welcomed with open arms.

[allaire]

And some overlook that most illegals send a good chunk of their money back to their family in where ever they come from.  I over heard some of them saying that they were getting ready to head back to mexico cause they had a good amount of money and that the economy isn't getting any better.  Kinda funny when some illegals are bailing like rats off a sinking ship.