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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #135 on: December 09, 2009, 03:54:31 PM »
every try and shoot any planes with a C47 :neener:?  you have to force them to auger....

but then you're not using it properly....... :neener: :banana: :bolt:
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #136 on: December 09, 2009, 05:16:04 PM »

 :rofl :rofl


an even better one is to up a 16 get some ALT on the bad guys and just kill as many as you can,   out fly them, HOing will not teach you anything!!

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« Reply #137 on: December 09, 2009, 05:47:38 PM »
Fly a Fighter Sweep at 20k+ over the hoard with 10 or 12 fighters. It tends to break the hoards momentum as you push them down to the green cherrys near the ground they thought were safe to pick. Most of the hoard is up high because they don't want to fight, just pick. So it rattles them to see 10 or 12 fighters above them. You now place the hoard between the vertical horns of a dilemma allowing the low flying green freindlies to start picking back at the low hanging red friut.

Pigs do sweeps like this frequently. Busts the hoards momentum because their security is about hiding in the vertical. When we are at squad critical mass we have flown these sweeps with over 20 fighters. Very few in this community fight very well above 15k. A few times a month when the Knights have their act together, our high alt fighter sweeps have allowed the players defending the knight base against the hoard to mount a counter attack and shut down the hoard completley.

Most of the time though the knights don't get it together with a counter strike and hoard waveII is arriving as the Pigs are landing.
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #138 on: December 09, 2009, 05:50:19 PM »
Fly a Fighter Sweep at 20k+ over the hoard with 10 or 12 fighters. It tends to break the hoards momentum as you push them down to the green cherrys near the ground they thought were safe to pick. Most of the hoard is up high because they don't want to fight, just pick. So it rattles them to see 10 or 12 fighters above them. You now place the hoard between the vertical horns of a dilemma allowing the low flying green freindlies to start picking back at the low hanging red friut.

Pigs do sweeps like this frequently. Busts the hoards momentum because their security is about hiding in the vertical. When we are at squad critical mass we have flown these sweeps with over 20 fighters. Very few in this community fight very well above 15k. A few times a month when the Knights have their act together, our high alt fighter sweeps have allowed the players defending the knight base against the hoard to mount a counter attack and shut down the hoard completley.

Most of the time though the knights don't get it together with a counter strike and hoard waveII is arriving as the Pigs are landing.

the other fun thing is to try to sneak into an area where there's one or two cherry pickers. be near their starting alt. do whatever you have to do to not be noticed by them.
 then when you're in positon, pick the pickers. it is soooooooooooooooooo much fun.  :rofl :rofl :aok
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #139 on: December 09, 2009, 06:05:05 PM »
I've also had luck taking a couple people and running over towards the hordes field and then popping up to 5k or so right in their face and catching them on climb out.  Usually means your outnumbered but if you have a couple good wingies you can tie up the hordes stream of reinforcements for a couple minutes and give the rest of your team a chance to deal with the horde near your own field.  If you can keep them occupied long enough it can swing the battle back in your favor and push the fight back towards the middle. 
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #140 on: December 09, 2009, 06:33:12 PM »
What is the CPID that you fly under?
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« Reply #141 on: December 09, 2009, 06:59:38 PM »
It's kind of sad in a way that missions seem primairily associated to base taking.

The Pigs have found full squad fighter sweeps work with fantastic results destabalising hoard momentum. I watch the bish and rook night after night send waves of fighters to a base while waves of bomber boxes fly over taking out everything on the targeted base. I never see knight missions with the goal of getting 20+ fighters above 15k between the feild under attack and the incoming hoards. But I watch 20 to 30 knights flying around the base in the bushes being slaughtered and reupping to be killed again. The whining about the bish rook hoarding gets to me the most when they have so many tools at their disposal to defeat them.

Two or three fighter sweep missions back to back will kill an assault hoard. By the second or third, even with the first 20 plane sweep you will be vulching uppers over the enemy feild. Last night the Pigs ran a sweep which resulted in the knights who were defending from bush level moving to vulching at the enemy feild who 10 minutes earlier had them all scurrying in the grass being picked.

*Note: I have seen sporadic fighter sweep missions over the years. But, they usually give up alt as a group to pig out on the first low cons they see thus eliminating themselves strategicly. The goal is to stay on station at 20k+ to force the enemy down and denigh him the SAFE PICK. Now days when the Pigs do hoard busting fighter sweeps, our rule is get on station and not give up the high gound. It's only a phsychological advantage to see us up there, but that seems to be enough for the low flying knights.
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #142 on: December 09, 2009, 09:09:54 PM »
ANY aircraft in its PROPER use is easy mode.  :neener: :aok


no not really,   P-40, F6,Fm2, spit1 or Hurri1, F4U, those and more, definitely are not easy mode even if flown in there element. I would even go so far as to say the 109's.


 I do understand what you are saying. if any plane is flown by a "uber" stick it is dangerous.   and I agree :aok   

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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #143 on: December 09, 2009, 09:12:06 PM »
It's kind of sad in a way that missions seem primairily associated to base taking.

The Pigs have found full squad fighter sweeps work with fantastic results destabalising hoard momentum. I watch the bish and rook night after night send waves of fighters to a base while waves of bomber boxes fly over taking out everything on the targeted base. I never see knight missions with the goal of getting 20+ fighters above 15k between the feild under attack and the incoming hoards. But I watch 20 to 30 knights flying around the base in the bushes being slaughtered and reupping to be killed again. The whining about the bish rook hoarding gets to me the most when they have so many tools at their disposal to defeat them.

Two or three fighter sweep missions back to back will kill an assault hoard. By the second or third, even with the first 20 plane sweep you will be vulching uppers over the enemy feild. Last night the Pigs ran a sweep which resulted in the knights who were defending from bush level moving to vulching at the enemy feild who 10 minutes earlier had them all scurrying in the grass being picked.

*Note: I have seen sporadic fighter sweep missions over the years. But, they usually give up alt as a group to pig out on the first low cons they see thus eliminating themselves strategicly. The goal is to stay on station at 20k+ to force the enemy down and denigh him the SAFE PICK. Now days when the Pigs do hoard busting fighter sweeps, our rule is get on station and not give up the high gound. It's only a phsychological advantage to see us up there, but that seems to be enough for the low flying knights.


There is another squad that does this quite often.
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #144 on: December 09, 2009, 09:13:22 PM »
There is another squad that does this quite often.

I wonder who those dweebs could be?
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #145 on: December 10, 2009, 12:48:54 AM »
There is another squad that does this quite often.

Well next time your squad is flying knights under the bish/rook shadow, give the Pigs a shout. We love flying herd on them from 20k....................
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #146 on: December 10, 2009, 01:38:15 AM »
Well next time your squad is flying knights under the bish/rook shadow, give the Pigs a shout. We love flying herd on them from 20k....................
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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #147 on: December 10, 2009, 01:45:33 AM »
It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.

You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.

For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?

I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".



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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #148 on: December 10, 2009, 04:20:00 AM »
gangbang... do you mean like this? & they still didn't get the base...


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Re: Gangbanging is getting worse...don't even want to play anymore...
« Reply #149 on: December 10, 2009, 06:17:15 AM »
Hey Lute, its me S1n1ster.

whelp... so much for my theory.


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