Author Topic: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?  (Read 4786 times)

Offline BaldEagl

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2009, 10:20:08 AM »
If even I can hold a 4:1 K/D ratio in the MA on occasion there can't be much skill to it.  1v1 is where you learn what you're made of.
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2009, 10:43:27 AM »
For some of us 1v1 can also become very mechanical, repetitive and frankly, boring. Furballing is not the only acceptable religion, like the dedicated furballers often tend to claim ;) Surely it hones the skill set required for 1v1, but some other skills are also required in 1 v many and many vs many fights. Some of those dueling skills or moves would put one at MA into a position of certain death. A truly dedicated furballer who holds himself next to God, may sometimes get that one kill, or two, and then die... and then go on whining about how others play wrong.

There are different kind of skills and different kinds of fun that different people value. Tolerance seems to be one of the most difficult skills in this game.


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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2009, 10:47:50 AM »
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1 v 1.

you can rack up kills all day long, and never actually participate in a single fight.

This one got me thinking....

In air combat, to kill without putting yourself in prolonged fights, isn't that a skill unto its self?

If I was a real fighter pilot... I don't want tobe that guy who alway finds himself in 1 on 1 fights alone. I want a "WINGMAN". :airplane:

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2009, 10:51:14 AM »
This one got me thinking....

In air combat, to kill without putting yourself in prolonged fights, isn't that a skill unto its self?

If I was a real fighter pilot... I don't want tobe that guy who alway finds himself in 1 on 1 fights alone. I want a "WINGMAN". :airplane:

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #49 on: December 12, 2009, 11:18:28 AM »
Again, overestimation  of the average player. You may not feel like it, but even you are above average. ;)

And "landing kills" is not the same as landing 3-5 every time you want to. It may occasionally happen... but for most players, landing 3-5 isn't a deliberate choice they made. It's pure luck.

not sure about being above average for me.  At time, and more than i dare to say, i get killed by a new player. 
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2009, 11:24:17 AM »
not sure about being above average for me.  At time, and more than i dare to say, i get killed by a new player. 

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2009, 11:36:05 AM »
I became completely and totally bored with furballing around year 4.  With dueling I learned that there would always be someone better than me so I stopped bothering with trying to be aceshigh TOPGUN around year 5.  I was somewhat lost and bothered by the whole smack talk bravado crap that had become so necessary, so prevalent in AH during the last few years...... taking breaks became more important and the breaks were coming quicker and lasting longer.  Finally splitting that one giant cluster **** of an arena up into early, mid, and late war, stages saved the game for me.


So where do I find myself?  Enjoying the hunt.  To hunt other players and kill them is what turns my crank, and yes....that includes landing the kills.   Thats where I bring home the bacon.

I love hunting and killing you people <S> and do damned near all of my hunting/killing in the slower paced and far more enjoyable/cordial atmosphere of Mid War.  
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2009, 12:20:08 PM »
Of course there is luck.  A pilot can be completely indifferent to the threats around him furballing away while enemies take unsuccessful passes at him or attack his allies.  He then finishes his tasks, bingo and proud, and rtbs a few kills unscathed.  Did he do a good job?  Yes, but he was lucky that somebody didn't pick him or choose him to saddle.

Gosh Chalenge, I think you try your hardest to give me sig material.  I'll stick with the 30k fuel saving for now though.

Well grissle is a great way to diet also there buckwheat but since you like your cons low for the picking and you prefer them clueless about ACM I can understand why you have never developed the knowledge of even how to fly at 30k let alone discovered that luck is an excuse for the unprepared. Great ankle biting there too.  :aok
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #53 on: December 12, 2009, 12:33:51 PM »
1v1 is something you do to practice for the MA but it is not the complete skill set required for MA flying. 1v1 is NOT enough skill to survive in the MA and it WILL NOT lead to high k/d without other skills (I prefer the word techniques).

This 'chatter' about skills and 1v1s and 'noobs' and all the smack-talk is there to manipulate people into flying stupid and getting themselves killed repeatedly in 'furballs' that do not resemble any engagement ever fought in WWII.
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #54 on: December 12, 2009, 01:05:26 PM »
Little of what happens in the MA resembles what happened historically. Even in a scenario type environment, you're lucky if you can experience 1% of what the real pilots did. This is a game, nothing more, nothing less.

This 'chatter' about skills and 1v1s and 'noobs' and all the smack-talk is there to manipulate people into flying stupid and getting themselves killed repeatedly

Frankly, if flying stupid means flying under 30k and in a non perk ride/ride above 5 ENY (check your stats sometime), I'll fly stupid every time. It is a lot more entertaining to get into a fight one shouldn't survive than to have to watch an in-flight movie just to get operational altitude. This is a game, loosen up and enjoy it.
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2009, 02:33:39 PM »
I fear the zipcodes

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2009, 03:06:19 PM »
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2009, 03:11:31 PM »
Now that was funny.

He may be trying to emulate HT  :D
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2009, 04:16:27 PM »
and you prefer them clueless about ACM

Like you?  There's no need to know any ACM when you have the patience to fly to 30k every mission and kill bombers and AFK pilots.  It's no mystery why you fly P47Ms, P51Ds, and Tempests.  You like the planes that have the greatest advantage at 28k, the ability to run when you realize your enemy is going to put up a fight.  One of these days I'm going to find ya up in the strato and film you as you try to fight your way out of the wet paper bag that I put you in.  Maybe tonight perhaps, that is if you aren't spawn camping in a tiger all night.   :aok

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2009, 04:25:24 PM »
Some sorties I fly lame so I can get my 'real lyf3!1' giddys and land a kill streak, most of the time I fly the game like... a game, where I never die.  I find it hard to fly 'real lyf3' though, whenever I see a green guy down there with 4 on him it's just impossible to stop from diving in to help.  Unless it's Del, he can just go die.
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