Basically its an apple and orange type of comparison, especially since the "fly to furball" crowd and the "fly to live" crowd both tend to take planes with exploitable advantages that they use to the fullest. However there is a small subset of folks who are in the "I fly what I like" crowd who are capable of both extraordinary 1 on 1/furball performances and consistently manage to land impressive sorties in the MA in spite of flying "average" planes in area's of the map where they are at a numerical disadvantage...further you will almost never find these guys at altitudes of over 10,000 ft or so. without placing one of these folks above any other I would put forth Greebo as an example of the type of stick I'm talking about.