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Offline Yenny

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #75 on: December 13, 2009, 02:19:33 AM »
Grizz you still havent shoot my I-16 down in ur 262 yet xD
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2009, 02:40:34 AM »
Chalenge is filling the weak minded with horrible ideas...... :rolleyes:
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2009, 02:48:14 AM »
Chalenge is filling the weak minded with horrible ideas...... :rolleyes:

You should be an absolute expert on what its like to be weak minded!  :aok :lol
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2009, 02:58:41 AM »
You should be an absolute expert on what its like to be weak minded!  :aok :lol
And your probably an expert on saving fuel, run for President :aok
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2009, 03:02:01 AM »
I am a lot more aware of the laws of physics than you or grissle its true but that hasnt been a trait any of our Presidents of the last 100 years possessed either. Maybe you should run!  :aok  :neener:
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2009, 03:08:28 AM »
I am a lot more aware of the laws of physics than you or grissle its true but that hasnt been a trait any of our Presidents of the last 100 years possessed either. Maybe you should run!  :aok  :neener:
Nah I cant stand politicians especially in person, seems like they are always reading off a telepromter, but as for the laws of physics you are talking about ;) , they dont matter in 99% of the fights in the LW arenas
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2009, 03:10:17 AM »
Nah I cant stand politicians especially in person, seems like they are always reading off a telepromter, but as for the laws of physics, they dont matter in 99% of the fights in the LW arenas

Oh I think Hitech might want to know about that!  :huh
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2009, 03:11:21 AM »
I remember seeing a video of someone taking on about 14 Spitfires in a 109 all alone, and the Spits had the alt advantage. The 109 pilot had superior skills and killed every one of them!  :O

Pretty sure it was a video I posted a while ago. There were about 14 spitfires but I only killed 8. The others chickened out  :devil

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2009, 05:31:21 AM »
The most important qualities for an airplane are top speed, maneuverability, and thrust/weight. Which one is most important depends on what you are doing at the time. Firepower and ammo load comes somewhere under that. Top speed never won a single dogfight btw, although it may have put you in position to have the dogfight.

Speed would be inarguably the most important *only* if score were based on k/d alone, with no k/s or k/t component.

As for Chalenge's personal "style"...haven't a clue.

The most efficient way to get a lot of kills in the MA is staying fast and being lethal on each gun solution you acquire.  Speed and Firepower are most important for MA efficiency.  Ammo load is next so you can rack up 5+ kills/sortie.  Then somewhere after that is turnability and climb.  BnZ, you really overestimate the way timid pilots like Chalenge fly.  He has no incentive to turn his plane, other than setting up the next pass on the bombers he is trying to kill.  This is the state of the game.  Not many pilots understand 1v1 ACM.  When you rarely run into someone who actually puts up a fight and does things right, it's always a recognizable veteran name.  Most times I am able to identify a pilot based on his maneuvers and what aircraft he is in.  In Chalenge's case, I can identify him by the 5k rook icon Typh above me when I am already too high at 12k or the tempest that took one 500 mph screaming pass at me hoping I was a numbers guy before high tailing it back to the horde or the ack and then patting himself on the back for his experten ACM and SA.

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #84 on: December 13, 2009, 11:52:33 AM »
there is nothing more fun than a good fight 2vs2 or better 4 vs 4  :rock

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #85 on: December 13, 2009, 01:47:58 PM »
Basically its an apple and orange type of comparison, especially since the "fly to furball" crowd and the "fly to live" crowd both tend to take planes with exploitable advantages that they use to the fullest. However there is a small subset of folks who are in the "I fly what I like" crowd who are capable of both extraordinary 1 on 1/furball performances and consistently manage to land impressive sorties in the MA in spite of flying "average" planes in area's of the map where they are at a numerical disadvantage...further you will almost never find these guys at altitudes of over 10,000 ft or so. without placing one of these folks above any other I would put forth Greebo as an example of the type of stick I'm talking about. 

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #86 on: December 13, 2009, 01:49:22 PM »
Oopps wrong thread.

1 vs 1 proves more IMO
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #87 on: December 13, 2009, 01:55:11 PM »
In Chalenge's case, I can identify him by the 5k rook icon Typh above me...

I dont know who you are describing... not even close to me. For one thing I always fly Bish... well 99.99% of the time anyway.  :D

You really should stop fantasizing.  :aok
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #88 on: December 13, 2009, 02:49:10 PM »
1 v 1 all day.
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #89 on: December 13, 2009, 06:05:53 PM »
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