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Offline leonid

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GATT: MC.205
« on: November 02, 1999, 02:56:00 AM »
gatt, do you realize that if HTC are on schedule the next two planes out will be NATEDOG's Fw 190A-8, and SUPERFLY's MC.205?

 


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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 1999, 03:01:00 AM »
And I vote for Dora after we get those two  

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Offline leonid

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 1999, 03:24:00 AM »
Hristo, Dora next? Nyet, tovarish!  That's three LW planes.

No, my friend, no Dora.  Next plane should be LA-7 or Yak-9U or Yak-3.  Give me a LA-7 or Yak-9U, or even a Yak-3, and those G-10 days of glory will be memories  


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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 1999, 04:26:00 AM »
Nope.  Something different would be nice.  Perhaps a Mosquito or Beaufighter?

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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 1999, 07:14:00 AM »
<sits down and grabs the popcorn>

ohhh this is gonna get interesting  

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 1999, 09:06:00 AM »
Got to be the ubiquitous P-40...pass the popcorn (next round's on me)  

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 1999, 10:02:00 AM »
Want something different? Brewster Buffalo Model-239. Not too many sims, leave alone online sims, have been able to include it due to its upsetting nature on game balance.


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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 1999, 10:13:00 AM »
Even if some sowjet planes would be nice, I think we should have the P38 or P47 before.

Don't think I want them really but they did most service over Germany back then and were the counterparts to 109s and 190s.
Please before you model the 190-D, model the Ta 152-H0 or H1 (67 came into service winter 1944). Then we can prove the real worth of German aircraft developement. (Remember it was delayed due to heavvy bombing of german aircraft manufacturing sites, else it would have seen service mid 1944)

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 1999, 10:18:00 AM »
F8F Bearcat for fun.
F4U-4 With cannons.

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 1999, 11:15:00 AM »
Following the FW190 and MC.205 the next plane modeled should either be a British or Russian bomber - or an American NAVY fighter.

Since the bombers take more time and effort to model, I suggest the F4U Corsair be modeled next.  

Following that I  think HTC SHOULD model a bomber - preferably a late war British model.

Beyond that for diversity, maybe a German twin engined fighter/bomber, then an early war American fighter such as the P-40, then possibly a Russian heavy fighter/bomber.

All I desire is that the planeset remain agressively diverse, and that each country be represented fairly equally. I'd also like for HTC to model as many airplanes as they can that DON'T already exist in WarBirds (aside from the definative planes - P-40, P-38, Zero, etc).  Pyro mentioned modeling a particular twin engined LW aircraft, and I know the F4U is on the way anyway.  

How about a Japanese 'Judy' - the Russian WWII-era Mig?


 


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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 1999, 12:07:00 PM »
Yeah, a/c not in WB. That means we should get the F4u-1A with the -1C as an optional wing/load out.;-)

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 1999, 01:46:00 PM »
Ta 152H, right ? CC, it would be great to have 190's revenge, after A8 gets slaughtered by Mustangs in the new version.

But Werewolf, can't you see that when I mention even a Dora, they pop up with Bearcats and such. If I came with Ta 152, they would jump me with F-86 or even F-4   Ok, maybe just some new Corsairs being shipped to the frontlines just as the war ended. Buffers would come up with B-29 etc.

Or is it just "Be realistic, ask for something you can't get" ?  

Yes, I admire Ta 152 ever since I was a kid, just as most US players admire P 51 or P 38.

Of course Ta-152 would be awesome. Only sim which has it is MS CFS (some add-on). Too bad the FM is not up to the AH level.

But I don't think we will ever see it here.  Hey, we don't even have self detonation on WGr, am I right ?

Pro Ta-152, in my opinion:

- Germans had several new designs which saw combat, more or less (Ta-152, Do 335, Me 163, He 162); At least one of those should be modeled at some point

- It saw combat, even its designer met Mustangs while flying it

- It has beauty and charisma. It came too little, too late, and fought against the odds, when all was lost; Something essential to make a legend (sorry, I went too far now  )

Contra Ta 152:

- It never served in numbers

- Data is pretty hard to find

- It might be too dominant in the arena, too many would fly it

- It would be a streak machine, way better than P 51D is now

- It could not be flown the way it was flown historically, against 5:1 odds and vulchers all around

Disclaimer: These are only my opinions.


P.S.
Dora would do just fine for now.


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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 1999, 02:11:00 PM »
Well at last it really saw service and scored quite some kills. But you are right, introducing it to AH will rise many voices begging for planes that NEVER reached the frontlines in European theater.
Regarding The 190-D I have to say it saw combat in big numbers. Mostly serving as "Hoehenstaffel" to protect the FW 190A-8.
(Service 1944)

Some other suggestions from my side

AR 234 "Blitz" (Service September 44)

Heinkel He 219 (with "Schräge Musik" the
A7/R1 had 6MK 108, 2 MG 151/20 and it has been put into service November 1943)


And not to forget all planes that saw service at all sides before WW2.

Lets have a Spanish Civil War time with Legion Condor!

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 1999, 04:01:00 PM »
You can't have the Arado Ar234 "Blitz" (fun as it would be) - it would be virtually invulnerable to interception!

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 1999, 04:07:00 PM »
Juzz,

thats exactly the point i want to have it for. Bombing the allied bases to ashes.

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