Game is reaching new lows.

[gpwurzel]

Hows that work for me then? I try every single time, and still end up dying 


Oh well, steep learning curve, and I must be at least, ooh, an inch up it now maybe.....


Wurzel

[Bronk]

Hows that work for me then? I try every single time, and still end up dying 


Oh well, steep learning curve, and I must be at least, ooh, an inch up it now maybe.....


Wurzel

IMO
There is that golden moment when you get a fight where your opponent is slightly better. These fights are the ones where you learn the most.

[CAP1]

This poor guy just doesn't get it.


What he is trying to say..... "I never test myself so i know I will always get shot down".  .... and it is true since he never takes the initiative to improve.

i tell ya what.........i was thinkin i was finally gettin pretty good in the ole 38 o doom.

 i thought wrong. last night, while massive fun, was a major bubble burster. tonight, if i don't pass out as soon as i get home, i'm gonna watch the film(ded was good enough to take the time to email it to me), and i feel that if i can see me from his viewpoint, i'll see a lot of what i don't seem to be able to see from my own viewpoint.
 it was/will be a serious learning experience. there was times i was riding the stall almost constant. i was sitting in my chair sweating my arse off, workin to try to get him. and workin to try to not be gotten. all of em down on the deck too.

 

[Shuffler]

i tell ya what.........i was thinkin i was finally gettin pretty good in the ole 38 o doom.

 i thought wrong. last night, while massive fun, was a major bubble burster. tonight, if i don't pass out as soon as i get home, i'm gonna watch the film(ded was good enough to take the time to email it to me), and i feel that if i can see me from his viewpoint, i'll see a lot of what i don't seem to be able to see from my own viewpoint.
 it was/will be a serious learning experience. there was times i was riding the stall almost constant. i was sitting in my chair sweating my arse off, workin to try to get him. and workin to try to not be gotten. all of em down on the deck too.

 

Those are the best... win or lose.

[bcadoo]

I winged with Dedalos the other night and saw him turn fight with a Zeke and a Hurri on the deck in a LA5 and beat them both.  It was very impressive.

[CAP1]

I winged with Dedalos the other night and saw him turn fight with a Zeke and a Hurri on the deck in a LA5 and beat them both.  It was very impressive.

between our fights, 2die4 was in a zeek. i came back out over the water, and saw them fighting, so i kept about 5k out.

 do you know how friggin HARD it was to not go in there and pick that big ole 38? 

 and yes, he beat a zeek in the 38 o doom. 

[j500ss]

IMO
There is that golden moment when you get a fight where your opponent is slightly better. These fights are the ones where you learn the most.

I personally very much agree with this statement, not that I don't get anything from dying quick to the "really good" sticks.  Just seem to get more out of fight that lasts more that 2 merges sometimes.

Cappy,  I hear ya on fighting Ded, I got a chance to go a couple rounds last week with him, he flew several different birds, not that it mattered but it sure hepled me out some.   Yea I got spanked, but it was fun, I found somethong I couold do in a B pony, that I was not sure I could.   Gonna look for him this week again too, he is quite a bit of fun to fly against, right or wrong on my part 

[Dadsguns]

Hows that work for me then? I try every single time, and still end up dying 


Oh well, steep learning curve, and I must be at least, ooh, an inch up it now maybe.....


Wurzel

You always Zig, when you should Zag, thus always ending up in front of someones sights..... 

[Spikes]

Hows that work for me then? I try every single time, and still end up dying 


Oh well, steep learning curve, and I must be at least, ooh, an inch up it now maybe.....


Wurzel

I guess I keep fallin' off at a half an inch then!

[Getback]

Yesterday there was a big crowd at a friendly base. I was damaged and going to land. There were plenty of cons and friendlies. One of the cons dove through no telling how many of my friendlies to shoot me wheels down as I touched down. I congratulated him on his first ever kill. 

How long did he last after that courageous kill? Why didn't you belly land on the main pad? Never advertise a landing with cons around. Many pilots look for low hanging fruit. I usually belly land on the main pad and between buildings if possible when there are cons around.

[Crash Orange]

IMO
There is that golden moment when you get a fight where your opponent is slightly better. These fights are the ones where you learn the most.

In my experience, those are the fights that last long enough for some picktard to scream in from 20k up and kill one of you.

I just don't see the courtly dueling culture in the MA that is so idolized here. If I get away from the "horde" and go looking for one or two radar cons to fight I inevitably find either buffs, someone completely clueless or AFK, or two guys in Ponies or 109K4s flying around at 25k who'll make B&Z passes until they either kill me or get remotely near the same e level as me at which point they run home. For variety, if I up to defend a field from a lone con I might get a bomb-and-bailer or kamikaze jabo. None of it teaches me anything except to run away as soon as I see multiple cons at much higher alt, because they'll run as soon as I look like I have the slightest chance of getting a non-HO shot in - which I learned within a week of starting.

The other night I was near an enemy base when I noticed all the friendlies had died or run and I was alone with a sky full of red cons. It looked like I could get out if I ran immediately, so I did, and of course four or five chased me. I waited until all but one 109 had peeled off and gotten out of con range and then said, "What the heck, I'll be starting at a positional disadvantage but after all I did come here to fight" and turned back to fight him. It might have been a nice fight, but I never got the chance to find out because naturally after a pass or three a bunch more enemies came back out and killed me. The only lesson I learned from this incident (excluding "I'm not good enough to have the slightest chance of beating or even lasting 30 seconds against 4 or 5 fighters except *maybe* with a huge starting advantage" because I already knew that) is that seeking an "honorable" duel like everyone talks about here just gets me ganged or picked, so don't bother.

The best fights I have all involve the much-maligned base take attempts, because those are the situations where people have lots of motivation to fight without extremely favorable conditions.

[jolly22]

im sure most pilots can agree w/ this,    WHen you engage or someone engages you with an advantage. ( EX: spit16 and mossie ) And they're both great pilots ( EX: bongo and drbone ) They both know how to fight. Correct?   Well, say drbone is the the spit and bongo is in the mossie, Bongo what would be your first action? try to engage, correct??   Well after you see that you don't have the advantage, What do you do? Most pilots would run or dive to gain speed and possibly come back and engage w/ speed ( this is what i try and so all the time ). After the opponents see this they recognize this as running. not as getting speed and coming back.     True, most pilots don't do this, they call for help or run. I also just thought of a solution. How about an arena for certain members who have played for 1 year or more? or an arena just for squads??   Anyone 2nd this??   Comments welcomed!


                  -JRjolly ( this is just my opinion )      

[CAP1]

In my experience, those are the fights that last long enough for some picktard to scream in from 20k up and kill one of you.

I just don't see the courtly dueling culture in the MA that is so idolized here. If I get away from the "horde" and go looking for one or two radar cons to fight I inevitably find either buffs, someone completely clueless or AFK, or two guys in Ponies or 109K4s flying around at 25k who'll make B&Z passes until they either kill me or get remotely near the same e level as me at which point they run home. For variety, if I up to defend a field from a lone con I might get a bomb-and-bailer or kamikaze jabo. None of it teaches me anything except to run away as soon as I see multiple cons at much higher alt, because they'll run as soon as I look like I have the slightest chance of getting a non-HO shot in - which I learned within a week of starting.

The other night I was near an enemy base when I noticed all the friendlies had died or run and I was alone with a sky full of red cons. It looked like I could get out if I ran immediately, so I did, and of course four or five chased me. I waited until all but one 109 had peeled off and gotten out of con range and then said, "What the heck, I'll be starting at a positional disadvantage but after all I did come here to fight" and turned back to fight him. It might have been a nice fight, but I never got the chance to find out because naturally after a pass or three a bunch more enemies came back out and killed me. The only lesson I learned from this incident (excluding "I'm not good enough to have the slightest chance of beating or even lasting 30 seconds against 4 or 5 fighters except *maybe* with a huge starting advantage" because I already knew that) is that seeking an "honorable" duel like everyone talks about here just gets me ganged or picked, so don't bother.

The best fights I have all involve the much-maligned base take attempts, because those are the situations where people have lots of motivation to fight without extremely favorable conditions.

you're looking in the wrong places, talking to the wrong pile-its.

[Guppy35]

Since there are always going to be different motivations for playing, it will continue to be as it is.

Some fly for the fight.
Some fly to survive
Some fly for points
Some fly for their name in lights

Most combine those at times.

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again.  Planes are free, no one really dies.  Might as well fight

[crockett]

HeHe I see not much has changed in this game since I stopped playing. I was thinking of giving a 2 week trial a try sometime once they add the WW1 stuff, but hate to think the hoards are worse than they were before..