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Offline texasmom

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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 01:02:08 PM »
Dang, dude. You talk to much. Are you a woman?

If you have a problem with the game or mod, don't bring that up here.  What are we supposed to do, pat you on the back until you feel better?

... and then you STILL have to go to the admins to get something done.
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 01:04:38 PM »
Ocean.


This is how it is:  Of course it can be.  Every piece of software ever produced by man can be 'hacked' in some way or another.  However, here at Aces High we are very lucky.  We, for the most part anyway, are sportsmen and we require a level playing field to compete on.  HT knows this and does his absolute best to ensure that we get a level playing field.  

I've heard stories that every time there is any report of even a hacking attempt (let alone a successful one) that HT immediately drops what he's doing (including all dev work) and investigates until he's either plugged the hole or discovered that it's just a report from some idiot who thinks a panzer should blow up with one shot at the thickest part of the armour from 2k away.  With HE.  Which can take days of his time, causes lots of swearing and slows up dev on new planes.  That line in the forum rules "We take allegations of cheating very seriously", is sooooo damn true.  So unless you're absolutely sure and have evidence, please don't waste any more of his time which could be spent designing cool new engine management systems.
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2009, 01:09:43 PM »
 I wasn't even here  :bolt:
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2009, 01:10:46 PM »
Ocean.


This is how it is:  Of course it can be.  Every piece of software ever produced by man can be 'hacked' in some way or another.  However, here at Aces High we are very lucky.  We, for the most part anyway, are sportsmen and we require a level playing field to compete on.  HT knows this and does his absolute best to ensure that we get a level playing field.  

I've heard stories that every time there is any report of even a hacking attempt (let alone a successful one) that HT immediately drops what he's doing (including all dev work) and investigates until he's either plugged the hole or discovered that it's just a report from some idiot who thinks a panzer should blow up with one at the thickest part of the armour.  With HE.  Which can take days of his time, causes lots of swearing and slows up dev on new planes.  That line in the forum rules "We take allegations of cheating very seriously", is sooooo damn true.  So unless you're absolutely sure and have evidence, please don't waste any more of his time which could be spent designing cool new engine management systems.



Swoop

No problem. I understand debugging I hate set -x myself
I was more miffed about the MOD muting me as to everytime i was pointing it out .

I have not called one person out and will not do that .
I also love the sport of this game . But was more pissed about the effect than the cause . Meaning how I was directly snuffed out

Pretty rude I might say .

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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2009, 01:15:00 PM »
Why is this the first instinctive action one takes when they feel they have been wronged? Is the logical approach that elusive, even when it is literally written down for all to see?

Like a quote from Star Trek IV: "It's a miracle these people got out of the 20th Century."

it's human nature.

the human mind cannot accept being wrong. it needs to find some way to make itself right.

 people by coming in here, with their partial truths(they conveniently leave out why this happened to them) do so with hopes of rallying the community behind them.
 then, when they see that the community is with them, now in their mind, they were right, and can rest easy.
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2009, 01:17:29 PM »

"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain."
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2009, 01:17:53 PM »
You guys are all hilarious .

I repeat the question

can it happen ?

Where in my original post does it show me calling someone out ?



right here.

4) When something fishy happens and you call it lout why are you the person that gets abused
5) I am not going to get the call signs involved but the admin that muted me should be revoked
I need to be shown why it happened


 you left out names, but htc, and the mod know who they were.
 chances are you were fairly "colorful?" shall we say? about what happened.  
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2009, 01:18:56 PM »
Of course this game can be hacked, and has been.

Look on youtube.

The thing is in this game unlike most others hackers are dealt with...... and the community knows how to spot a cheater so they wouldn't last long anyway.

You probably just got ur butt handed to you by a good stick. Live and Learn.

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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2009, 01:19:24 PM »

Look
I am sick of being abused by people that do not even know me

I am sking this only because of observations
made by others besides me . If it was just me I really would be saying Its me move on .
But it is not . What is obvious is this shush and do not talk about it BS.
Sorry doesnt bode well with me.

I work on some of the most complex computer equip in the world and design and right the software that goes right along with it

I am constantly on a day in and day out basis meeting compliancy guidlines and rules.

I can tell you that even in my world there is no guarentee.

What pissed me off is the arrogance that some have .
Some who have replied to this are included
Arrogance gets you no where , except bit in the rear whne you are not looking .
You want to call me a noob go ahead 3 years isnt long I know . But one thing is for sure .
Something strange was happening . Enough for me to talk about it .

When My vacation is over and I go back to work full time that will be it
10 min here
20 min there

And ill be stuck in the unix world again
But for know I would have expected to have gotten respect since I have not disprespected any in here

I can see I was mistaken.... SAD :o


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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2009, 01:19:55 PM »
I am IN :x :x :x :x :x


 could not get IN the others :D

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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2009, 01:20:28 PM »

I agree with humble on this one

eehh!!

you're just kissin up so he'll stop shootin ya down.  :neener:
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2009, 01:20:57 PM »
ive only seen one time where it was actually proven that someone hacked. dunno if the video exists still but was a yaku taking off and instantly zooming up to a fight at like me163 speed. so ya i'd say the game can be hacked but with everyone able to film and view stats of every plane in range its hard to get away with it.
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2009, 01:23:02 PM »
Of course this game can be hacked, and has been.

Look on youtube.

The thing is in this game unlike most others hackers are dealt with...... and the community knows how to spot a cheater so they wouldn't last long anyway.

You probably just got ur butt handed to you by a good stick. Live and Learn.

ok. i'm callin out oldman22 then. he cheated by outflying me last night.  :neener: :noid :bolt:
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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2009, 01:30:51 PM »


Swoop

No problem. I understand debugging I hate set -x myself
I was more miffed about the MOD muting me as to everytime i was pointing it out .

I have not called one person out and will not do that .
I also love the sport of this game . But was more pissed about the effect than the cause . Meaning how I was directly snuffed out

Pretty rude I might say .

Im done
Put a fork in me

Going out with my son

Dude, you accused someone of cheating and then went on a 10 minute long rant about the subject matter.  Of course you deserved to be muted.

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Re: a serious question (hack)
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2009, 01:39:33 PM »
Oceans.... Others have already posted the correct response, but you still don't seem to understand it....

So, I will try to explain it to you, politely....

You are correct, there are NO safe computers or software.  If top secret government and banking computers can be hacked, I assure you HTC can be hacked as well.  However, there is a proper way to address suspected hacking/cheating and it has been posted on these BBS numerous times.  If you feel there is something afoul, film it, and quietly email the video to HTC.  They will look into it and address it if it proves to be an error, a hack, or a cheat.

The ONE thing that is very clear, is getting on Country or 200 channel and accusing someone of cheating or openly pointing out a problem is NOT healthy for game play and Skuzzy takes a very hard line toward it.  You weren't muted because you think someone cheated.  You were likely muted because you 'had your discussion' on an open channel.  

which brings me back to the original point....   film it and send it in.  If there is a problem (intentional or not) I am very sure that it will be dealt with.  Do things the right way and you won't get spanked.

 :aok



Oh... and for the record.... I have no empirical data, but I would be willing to bet that the actual number of 'accused cheaters' who were actually hacking/cheating is likely to be less than 1/10 of 1%.  Frankly, I see some things every now and again that get my blood pressure up; but, I also believe that there is a logical explanation for it that DOES NOT include cheating.  Internet lag, bad connections, slow computers... whatever.  I honestly don't believe that 'hacking' is really as much of an issue as some would have you believe.
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