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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #120 on: January 04, 2010, 05:32:39 PM »
It's just as scary being an instructor...I think I soloed maybe 100 + people!  Flifast  :airplane:

from what i gather of what the average cfi gets paid, and from what i gather can happen to them, as far as lawsuits, things comin back on them from students they've checked out, the sheer responsibility of their positions, and just dealing with "joe public".....i don't think they get paid nearly enough.
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #121 on: January 04, 2010, 09:15:53 PM »
from what i gather of what the average cfi gets paid, and from what i gather can happen to them, as far as lawsuits, things comin back on them from students they've checked out, the sheer responsibility of their positions, and just dealing with "joe public".....i don't think they get paid nearly enough.

as is the case with I think pretty much anyone who flies for a living..   from ATP's to fighter pilots to CFI's... its a damned shame.. Do i recall correctly that a FO on say a 30 pax turboprop for a regional airline starts at like $20-30k??

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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #122 on: January 04, 2010, 10:14:14 PM »
as is the case with I think pretty much anyone who flies for a living..   from ATP's to fighter pilots to CFI's... its a damned shame.. Do i recall correctly that a FO on say a 30 pax turboprop for a regional airline starts at like $20-30k??



20k???/ that;'s IT????

a dishwasher makes almost that much.


THAT is a crime, and they are underpaid if such is the case. horribly underpaid.
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #123 on: January 04, 2010, 10:24:58 PM »
Thankfully, Major Airline pilots make a bit more than that but I did start out as a poor underpaid CFI.  :D
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #124 on: January 04, 2010, 10:26:53 PM »

The DA-20 works out at about $130/hr wet and my instructor is $55/hr. (snip)

 :airplane: Thats what the school charges for an instructor, have you asked him how much he gets paid?
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #125 on: January 04, 2010, 11:33:19 PM »
from what i gather of what the average cfi gets paid, and from what i gather can happen to them, as far as lawsuits, things comin back on them from students they've checked out, the sheer responsibility of their positions, and just dealing with "joe public".....i don't think they get paid nearly enough.

There effectively is no statute of limitations. I could've given a guy a checkride 6 years ago, flown with him once, and the second he plows into something his family of heir's can come after me if I have deep pockets. Or, as is usually the case - the manufacture of some twittleing widget that some retard attorney dreamed up being a problem. I'd cite a 2003 incident when a VFR 22 pilot flew into IMC, non rated - killed himself. The family then sued Cirrus and won...

In what world? And you wonder why a 30 cent piece costs $70? A spark plug costs $25? Product liability. Same goes for students.


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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #126 on: January 05, 2010, 12:14:44 AM »
There effectively is no statute of limitations. I could've given a guy a checkride 6 years ago, flown with him once, and the second he plows into something his family of heir's can come after me if I have deep pockets. Or, as is usually the case - the manufacture of some twittleing widget that some retard attorney dreamed up being a problem. I'd cite a 2003 incident when a VFR 22 pilot flew into IMC, non rated - killed himself. The family then sued Cirrus and won...

In what world? And you wonder why a 30 cent piece costs $70? A spark plug costs $25? Product liability. Same goes for students.

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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #127 on: January 05, 2010, 01:34:13 AM »
:airplane: Thats what the school charges for an instructor, have you asked him how much he gets paid?

Nope - that would be none of my business, but I think we can safely assume the school's taking a reasonable chunk of it.

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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #128 on: January 05, 2010, 02:31:04 AM »
I've had around 10 hours but not all of it was logged when I was younger. Only in c152/172 paid lessons and a chipmonk with the RAF cadets. Very slowly getting there, should have my licence some time in 2060 at this rate. Also done 6 hours in gliders, much fun. The first loop I ever did myself was in a glider right over my house. I pulled back so hard that I smashed my head into the seat rest and made the instructor shout with alarm.  Got an hour coming up next month in a Pitts, I really cannot wait for that.
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #129 on: January 05, 2010, 07:35:55 AM »
Around 50 hours in gliders plus unofficial 2-3 hrs at controls of Yak12 tow plane and Zlin 142M aerobatic trainer. PPL in plans as soon as I find time for it.

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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #130 on: January 05, 2010, 01:54:23 PM »
I have also ultralight licence (LSA in USA). I have now 32 hours in Evektor EV-97 Eurostar.

Making a preflight check in my own lake ice airfield :)


Here are some videos about flying with Eurostar.

My first solo flight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cxc6iKrnNE

Hanging on the sky with my friend...Some of you might also know him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRG8Y5zw4qw&feature=channel

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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2010, 02:01:36 PM »
I have the same Ultralight license as Sasmox here in Finland. I have about 77 hours in the Eurostar. Loving every minute  :aok

Here's a couple of my more experimental videos:

Two GoPro cameras attached to the plane, one in main landing gear, another in wing tiedown point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrHMpDvTWts

One GoPro camera in main landing gear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slGT_yBUGW4

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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #132 on: January 05, 2010, 02:05:20 PM »
I have also ultralight licence (LSA in USA). I have now 32 hours in Evektor EV-97 Eurostar.

Making a preflight check in my own lake ice airfield :)
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Here are some videos about flying with Eurostar.

My first solo flight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cxc6iKrnNE

Hanging on the sky with my friend...Some of you might also know him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRG8Y5zw4qw&feature=channel


ya know...i'm prolly gonna get flamed for this...and i'm not meanin to be a jerk......

but was it super windy there, and the trees just weren't moving? that was a somewhat scary looking take off. you were almost to the grass on the left.
 also, why did you just "firewall" the throttle? i've not flown lsa......but in the 172's and 152's i don't just firewall it either.......steady application of throttle.
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #133 on: January 05, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »
Is it not possible for wind to be calm AGL and strong at 1000ft?


edit: i think i misunderstood what you meant....ignore me  :lol
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Re: Real World Pilots
« Reply #134 on: January 05, 2010, 04:02:15 PM »
ya know...i'm prolly gonna get flamed for this...and i'm not meanin to be a jerk......

but was it super windy there, and the trees just weren't moving? that was a somewhat scary looking take off. you were almost to the grass on the left.
 also, why did you just "firewall" the throttle? i've not flown lsa......but in the 172's and 152's i don't just firewall it either.......steady application of throttle.

I think it's partially due to the placement and angle of the camera that, while left of centerline, caused an illusion of making it worse than it was.  I'd say it was windy as well based on what appeared to be bumps immediately after departure and throughout the flight.

Secondly the power application seems to go in two distinct stages with about 2 seconds elapsed for throttle travel.  Seems reasonable.