A NEW GERMAN bomber!!! (heavy)! TAKE A LOOK

[Volron]

Not sure where any place in my post that it says I want it.

People moan about the lack of German heavy bombers in this game. I don't feel as though it's because HTC doesn't want to model one, but due in fact that there isn't a lot of worthy air frames to put in game. As you all know, it was the German policy to deploy smaller bombers.

Would love to have, but...

He 111, Do 17Z, Do 217, Ju 188... all higher priority IMO

This...

[Volron]

Not sure where any place in my post that it says I want it.

People moan about the lack of German heavy bombers in this game. I don't feel as though it's because HTC doesn't want to model one, but due in fact that there isn't a lot of worthy air frames to put in game. As you all know, it was the German policy to deploy smaller bombers.

 


Would love to have, but...

He 111, Do 17Z, Do 217, Ju 188... all higher priority IMO

This...

[jolly22]

Calm down volron.....

[MarineUS]

 

[321BAR]

Would love to have, but...

This...

Would love to have, but...

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Would love to have, but...

This...

Would love to have, but...

This...

if this was a quadruple post accidentally then why such long wait times between posts?

[alpini13]

yes yes yes

[Dahl]

What the heck; I'd fly the sob.

[Tyrannis]

We NEED a new bomber, I was looking through my book and found the Heinkel HE 177A-5 Greif. Not only is it another heavy bombers, its an axis bomber. Off the top of my head we have NO AXIS HEAVY bomber.

The HE 177A-5 Was first used in action in 1942. This plane was the ONLY heavy bomber that the Germans built in large numbers (1,169 to be exact). The plane can carry up to 6000kg (13,228ib) of bombs. This bomber is more protected than the Lancaster.                
1 7.92mm machine gun in nose
1 20mm and 2 7.92 machine guns in the ventral gondolas
2 13mm machine gun in remotely controlled dorsal Barbette's
1 20mm cannon in tail.

Now, the guns maybe be difficult to shoot and aim correctly, the He 177 is still more heavily protected than the Lancaster.

 The He 177 has 2 3100hp daimler-Benz DB 610A/1/B-1 24- cylinder engines........with a top speed of 303mph and a climb rate of about 623 feet per minute.  About the same climb rate as the Lancaster, but is a lot faster. I'm guessing that this plane is a very good CV killer. The Germans used this plane in anti-shipping missions in the Baltic Sea. Just because the Germans used this plane in the Baltic seas doesn't mean we can't use it wherever we want.


The HE 177 was said to have dive bombing capabilities. At least in a shallow dive.

General characteristics:
Wingspan:103ft
Length:72ft
service ceiling:30,000ft


Here's a list of all the bomb possibilities:

48 × 50 kg (110 lb) bombs (2,400 kg/5,291 lb total)
1 × 2,500 kg (5,511 lb) bomb (2,500 kg/5,511 lb total)
12 × 250 kg (551 lb) bombs (3,000 kg/6,613 lb total)
6 × 500 kg (1,102 lb) bombs (3,000 kg/6,613 lb total)
2 × 1,800 kg (3,968 lb) bombs (3,600 kg/7,936 lb total)
2 × 1,800 kg (3,968 lb) bombs + 2 × LMA III mines (4,600 kg/10,141 lb total)
10 × 500 kg (1,102 lb) bombs (5,000 kg/11,023 lb total)
2 × 1,000 kg (2,204 lb) bombs + 2 × 1,800 kg (3,968 lb) bombs (5,600 kg/12,345 lb total)
6 × 1,000 kg (2,204 lb) bombs (6,000 kg/13,227 lb total)
2 × FX 1400 Fritz X + 1 × FX 1400 Fritz X under the wings and fuselage
2 × Hs 293 or 294 + 1 × Hs 293 or 294 under the wings and fuselage
2 × 500 kg (1,102 lb) bombs internally + 2 × Hs 293 under the wings
2 × LT 50 torpedoes under the wing

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                                          - JRjolly <<S>>

it looks like what the ar234 would be if it had its wings extended, and prop engines.

i like it, but would rather have the fw200 condor first tho.

[Tyrannis]

speaking of the he177...did the allies ever use any of them? because i found this photo....




also, what type of gun is that on the first model on this chart? was it like an attack version of the aircraft?

[Debrody]

The Condor could carry only 2000kg bombs, had almost no defensive arnament, had a very weak structure and had a top speed of 225mph. In the other hand, it had the range of 4400 km. It was used over the atlantic ocean in anti-shipping missions because in the early war the allies couldnt send escorting carriers to protect the convoys. Would be a nice addition to the early war planeset.

The 177 could be a lightly perked bomber. It was fast, had good arnament, could carry a big bombload, was produced in big numbers. Only the early models had that engine flaming habit, the improved version was in front service in '42.

[coola4me]

speaking of the he177...did the allies ever use any of them? because i found this photo....

also, what type of gun is that on the first model on this chart? was it like an attack version of the aircraft?

The British test flew one in autumn of 1944 into 1945. They found it to be an inferior plane and found it almost as dangerous to its crews as it did to the enemy.

That would be the MK 101 30mm auto cannon

The plane apparently was plagued with engine overheating and fires.

[Dichotomy]

if this was a quadruple post accidentally then why such long wait times between posts?

around 5:00 last night it got WAY slow.  Slowest I've ever seen it.  Locked on one of my posts for over 5 minutes so I finally closed out

[B4Buster]

FW200.

[Debrody]

The plane apparently was plagued with engine overheating and fires.

That must had be an early model what was tested by the british. The germans solved the engine overheating problems til '42, and after that, the crew liked this aircraft.

[Volron]

Calm down volron.....

hahaha  That was the forum spazzing out on me.  Sorry about that guys.  Got pissed at it yesterday and closed it out.  I just now check it and I see this....  Oh boy.