same style?
b-24D time to 20,000 feet: 22min fully loaded
B-17G time to 20,000 feet: 37min fully loaded
kinda like the p-38 is same style as p-47 right RAM?
by god they look the same for sure
weak minded luftwobble.
b24 is about as different from b17 as a 4 engined bomber can get. the similarity ends there.
Specification of Consolidated B-24D Liberator:
Four Pratt & Whitney R-1830-43 fourteen-cylinder turbosupercharged air-cooled radial engines, each rated at 1200 hp at 23,400 feet. Performance: Maximum speed 303 mph at 25,000 feet. Cruising speed 200 mph. Landing speed 95 mph. Service ceiling 32,00 feet. An altitude of 20,000 feet could be reached in 22 minutes. Range was 2300 miles with 5000 pounds of bombs. Range 1800 miles at maximum cruising power. Maximum range 3500 miles. Initial production blocks had a fuel capacity of 2364 US gallons, but later production blocks increased this to 3614 US gallons. Dimensions: Wingspan 110 feet 0 inches, length 66 feet 4 inches, height 17 feet 11 inches, wing area 1048 square feet. Weights: 32,605 pounds empty, 55,000 pounds gross, Maximum takeoff weight 64,000 pounds. Armament: Bomb bay could accommodate up to eight 1100-pound bombs. Underwing racks for two 4000-pound bombs were available, but were seldom used. Later models could carry eight 1600-pound bombs. Defensive armanent varied signficantly according to model, as described above.
B-24 is a high wing, twin tailed, box fuselaged, trycicle geared, sliding bomb doored twin bomb racked 4 engine bomber
Specification of B-17G:
Four Wright R-1820-97 Cyclone radials with general Electric B-22 turbosuperchargers, each rated at 1200 hp for takeoff and 1000 hp at 25,000 feet, with a war emergency power of 1380 hp at 26,700 feet. Performance: Maximum speed 263 mph at 25,000 feet, 300 mph at 30,000 feet (war emergency). Cruising speed 150 mph at 25,000 feet. Landing speed 90 mph Initial climb rate 900 feet per minute. An altitude of 20,000 feet could be attained in 37 minutes. Service ceiling 35,000 feet. Range 1850 miles with 4000 pounds of bombs at 25,000 feet with 2810 gallons of fuel. Dimensions: Wingspan 103 feet 9 3/8 inches, length 74 feet 9 inches, height 19 feet 1 inches, wing area 1420 square feet. Weights: 32,720 pounds empty, 55,000 pounds normal loaded, 72,000 pounds maximum. Fuel: Normal fuel load was 2520 US gallons, but extra fuel tanks could be installed which raised total fuel capacity to 3612 US gallons. Armament: Specified defensive armament was as follows: Thirteen 0.5-inch Browning machine guns in chin, nose, dorsal, center- fuselage, ventral, waist, and tail positions.
B-17 is a lowwing, conventional tailed, cylinderical fuselaged, conventional geared, folding bomb doored single bomb racked 4 engine bomber.
B-24 is the only other widely used ww2
heavy bomber capable of surviving in the MA besides the B-29.
lancaster is a free kill in MA. so is the ju88. fighters drool when they see these.
h8k emily? g4m betty? they would never get used in the MA. and in scenarios they would be moving targets just like the ju88 and soon to be released flying turkey tbf. ( i love the tbf but it will be easy meat in this arena)
only capable buffs in AH for MA play are the b26 and b17.
U.S. after all was the only allied country using heavy bombers for daylight raids deep in enemy territory. they got good at defensive armament because of this.
B-24D would be better for this type of arena though.it climbs better than b24J by a good margin since its 8000 lbs lighter.
[This message has been edited by Citabria (edited 12-08-2000).]