how did the f4u have such a low CD,0

[bolillo_loco]

I neither have a problem with the F6F turning performance. It sounds ok, but I do not understand why its armament would matter. it carried the same 6 .50 cals like the corsair did. does this mean the -4B corsair is going to be used with 4 20mm cannons?

[SKurj]

Bolillo we already have the F4U-1c in aces armed with 4 20mm hispanos...
As well as F4U-1D with 50's

AKSKurj

[Torgo]

I'm willing to wager a lot of money there isn't a single post complaining of the "uber" Hellcat after 1.05 comes out :-)

Unless they REALLY butcher the FM somehow.

In fact, I doubt you see all that many of them 2-3 weeks after the release. Granted, with moveable head positions, the rear vis probs aren't as bad as WBs, but it's simply not going to be flown much.

In fact, all adding CVs will do is increase the numbers of CHogs and Nikis :-)

Unfortunately, the microscopic handful of CHogs that did see combat did it off carrier decks..I can't imagine it not being enabled. And people aren't going to choose Hellcats over CHogs and Nikis.

[LLv34_Snefens]

I thought that N1K2-J was an japanese land-airplane and not equipped for carrier operations?

[funked]

Yep it was not a carrier plane AFAIK.

Now how about an N1K1 seaplane?  

[Torgo]

Ack...I knew that...

I was thinking Navy = CV capable :-).  

Well, the CVs will increase the numbers of CHogs even more...it's the only thing people will be flying from them....

[bolillo_loco]

my question about the -4 corsair is will it be the .50 cal -4 or the 4 20mm -4B

[juzz]

Since when are we getting the F4U-4 at all?   The -4B and -4C were in use only after WW2.

[bolillo_loco]

yes, that is why I questioned it. the F4U-4 with 6 .50 cal was a ww2 plane. I know it only saw combat from june 1945 until august 1945, but this still makes it a ww2 plane. I have never seen anybody argue that a spit mk XIV wasnt a ww2 plane and I think there were more F4U-4s in service at wars end than Mk XIVs.

I agree that the F4U-4B and -4C were not ww2 planes.

[bloom25]

Zigrat the answers are simple:

1: The F4u has a high coolness factor.  As such the laws of physics are not enforced as strictly for the f4u.

2: The plane is blue.  The sky is blue.  Since the color is the same there is less drag.

3: Black magic...

 



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS

[F4UDOA]

Gents,

I do believe the F4U-4B did see action in WW2, however I will not lobby for it's use in Aces High. I would rather see the F4U-1A(better maneuvering) and F4U-4 as the two non-perked versions of the F4U and the -1C be the perk version.

I do think the F6F however will be the next A/C in the game that people think is unfair. I don't think people understand the performance of the A/C. It can turn with if not better than a Spit IX. Is faster than most at sea level at 345MPH. And had a 3,000FPM rate of climb. Currently there is no A/C in the game that is as maneuverable and durable with 6 50cals. It will probable eliminate the F4U-1D from game play because of this. This is one reason why the F4U-1A should be here instead. I think it will replace the NIK2 and the Spit as the plane of choice for newbies. It may not have had this effect in WB but it did in AW.
Anyway that's my 2 cents.

Later
F4UDOA

[Lephturn]

Even in WB (back when I was there), the F6F was a beast in the right hands.

A high F6F still sends shudders down my spine.  You WB vets will remember what Garn can do in that bird.  Naaaaasty.

However, the F6F is not a cannon bird, so it won't be the dweeb ride the others are.  With 6 x .50's it will take a good shot to do well in it.  Killing things with a 4x20mm bird will still be easier IMHO.

That said, I'm glad of it.  I'd rather the F6F not be too popular, as it is one of my favourite AC of all time.  It's like a mini-Jug. And it's Blue!<G>

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A member of The Flying Pigs  http://www.flyingpigs.com
 
"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"

[Hooligan]

Unless rearward visibility in the F6F is intolerable (as it was in WB) then I expect it to be a fine dweeb ride.  Compared to the dweeb-spit IX (at sea level):  The F6F has a bit worse climb and firepower, has similar turn capabilites, is faster, is a better diver and much more durable and it has a huge ammo load.  I am looking forward to dweebing around in it a lot and I will feel highly insulted if I am not frequently called a cheater for flying it.

Also, concerning drag I think Bloom25 is right.  The often overlooked "spectral drag" factor highly favors the manly blue aircraft.

Hooligan

[Lephturn]

I think the AH view system, with it's moveable pilot's head/butt system, will significantly decrease the rear view problems.  It certainly helps in the Hog, which is almost as restrictive as the F6F.

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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs  http://www.flyingpigs.com
 
"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"

[bolillo_loco]

I have a question for you F4UDOA. if the F4U-4 with 6 .50 cal was barely a ww2 bird then how did the -4B make it into combat? seeing that the -4 only saw combat use in the last 3 months of the war.

the -4 had the spoiler on the wing to make its stall habbits better. this spoiler ruined the corsairs turing ability. a -4 will not turn like a -1, not even close, but on the other side of the coin the -4 will be much faster and climb much better than a -1.