Prevent SIDE SWITCHING with under 4 bases to reset.

[MORAY37]

I would propose that HT might look into the possibility of curtailing side switching when any country gets within Four bases of a reset. This would serve a couple of different purposes:

1)  It would increase the likelihood of actual "fights" for bases, rather than 75 man hordes on a single vehicle base. 

2)  ENY.  When one side gets close to a reset, there is an inevitable mass exodus of players from the other two.  I don't know if people can't get perks any other way, but the fights degenerate rather quickly close to a reset, for all countries.

Case in point... was having a great time yesterday (Sunday 3 JAN), with a small map and good fights.  I fly high ENY birds ~75-80% (Ki84 and 190F8) of the time anyway, so that doesn't make a difference.  Rook ENY was ~8 or so, and the fights were spectacular.  I mean great times.  Rooks took a couple of bases.....and got within 1 or 2 of reset.  Suddenly, 80 players from Knit and Bish switched sides, I guess to get the free perks.  ENY went from 8 to 29 in about 3 minutes.  Fights all over the map degenerated into hordes of Rooks on single bases, which were then countered by both of the other countries upping 262's en masse.  The actual fighting dropped to nothing...and turned into a slaughter.  I left the arena and went to the other.

It's really frustrating going from a great time having great fights to flying P40's against 262's and Tempests. 

Inevitably, someone will say, just switch sides.  I like flying with my squadron.  If I was freelance, I would switch in a heartbeat.  I'm just saying that the fights would be better if we limited the "mass exodus" of switchers close to a reset.

[Ack-Ack]

Any measure to prevent anyone from switching sides is a bad thing. 


ack-ack

[Oleg]

Any measure to prevent anyone from switching sides is a bad thing. 

Indeed.

[AKP]

Moray... I hear ya.  It irritates me to no end to see people doing that and watching your ENY shoot through the roof.  We have one guy in MW that makes it known to the whole arena that he is switching sides to get perks, and will stay logged in and go to sleep waiting for the map to get rolled over night so he can do it without any effort on his part.  We have tried telling him that it's lame, and that it hoses our ENY, but he doesn't care.

But, Ack-Ack is right... preventing side switching is even worse... for a lot of reasons.   

[Lusche]

Moray... I hear ya.  It irritates me to no end to see people doing that and watching your ENY shoot through the roof. 

ENY doesn't go through the roof because everyone is changing countries. Most of them just leave the arena, either to go to another where their country is hording/winning/whatever, or they log off in disgust.

[AWwrgwy]

ENY doesn't go through the roof because everyone is changing countries. Most of them just leave the arena, either to go to another where their country is hording/winning/whatever, or they log off in disgust.

+1

What I was about to say.  You have 2 sides that outnumber the third already.  When getting vultched or picked is no longer fun, people don't switch, they leave.

People gravitate to the dar bars, the friendly dar bars.  If you can't take off, there's really no point in playing, is there?


wrongway

[AKP]

ENY doesn't go through the roof because everyone is changing countries. Most of them just leave the arena, either to go to another where their country is hording/winning/whatever, or they log off in disgust.

Actually... it is becoming a common occurrence in MW.  Starts out even, but as the map starts to edge over to one color, you see the guys you were shooting at not 5 minutes ago wearing little green icons and flying alongside you.  But no... it isnt all due to side swapping... it just doesnt help it at all.

[Westy]

Pointless.  Because it simply delays the inevitable and the players who would
rather not be online and on the receiving end of a beat-down would just logoff
or go elsewhere.

[AKP]

Pointless.  Because it simply delays the inevitable and the players who would
rather not be online and on the receiving end of a beat-down would just logoff
or go elsewhere.

I agree completely... another reason it is so darn irritating.

[Masherbrum]

Any measure to prevent anyone from switching sides is a bad thing. 


ack-ack

QFT!

[Delirium]

If the low number country all switched to get perks (it doesn't work that way anymore), you can always switch to the low number country. You'll earn a lot more perks that way than you would 'winning the war' anyhow.

Last night was real pathetic, here are some of the statements used in regards to ENY (all from one squad too).

"Hitler would of loved ENY."

"I bet the same people that like ENY are on welfare."

"They need to level the playing field, same reason dodgeball was removed from schools."

"I bet you think every kid deserves to get a trophy."

[715]

I thought if you switched to the wining side hours before a reset the system didn't give you the 25 perk points on the win.

So the OP is saying that the players on the side being gang slaughtered should stay and take it so that the OP can have some "nice" fights?  "Nice" for who?  If it's ENY that you find annoying, you can always switch to the side being slaughtered and have no ENY problem and all the "nice" fights you want.

[Flifast]

how about 24 hours seat lock!  Fli

[waystin2]

If the low number country all switched to get perks (it doesn't work that way anymore), you can always switch to the low number country. You'll earn a lot more perks that way than you would 'winning the war' anyhow.

Last night was real pathetic, here are some of the statements used in regards to ENY (all from one squad too).

"Hitler would of loved ENY."

"I bet the same people that like ENY are on welfare."

"They need to level the playing field, same reason dodgeball was removed from schools."

"I bet you think every kid deserves to get a trophy."

 

You might be a redneck...

[MORAY37]

I thought if you switched to the wining side hours before a reset the system didn't give you the 25 perk points on the win.

So the OP is saying that the players on the side being gang slaughtered should stay and take it so that the OP can have some "nice" fights?  "Nice" for who?  If it's ENY that you find annoying, you can always switch to the side being slaughtered and have no ENY problem and all the "nice" fights you want.

No, I'm saying things were nice and equal until many of them switched sides to go to ROOK when it seemed rooks were about to reset.  Then it became a horde versus perked rides for a quarter.  Not much fun for either side.  I mean, obviously a few souls have a great time picking away in perked rides from 20K plus.  The rook ENY went from around 8 to 29 in three minutes.  There wasn't a decent fight to be had on the map after that.

I could honestly care about ENY, I fly high ENY rides most of the time anyway.  

Please re-read the original post slower, and comprehend what I said.  That isn't a cut on you, but you completely misinterpreted my meaning.

would propose that HT might look into the possibility of curtailing side switching when any country gets within Four bases of a reset. This would serve a couple of different purposes:

1)  It would increase the likelihood of actual "fights" for bases, rather than 75 man hordes on a single vehicle base.

2)  ENY.  When one side gets close to a reset, there is an inevitable mass exodus of players from the other two.  I don't know if people can't get perks any other way, but the fights degenerate rather quickly close to a reset, for all countries.

Case in point... was having a great time yesterday (Sunday 3 JAN), with a small map and good fights.  I fly high ENY birds ~75-80% (Ki84 and 190F8) of the time anyway, so that doesn't make a difference.  Rook ENY was ~8 or so, and the fights were spectacular.  I mean great times.  Rooks took a couple of bases.....and got within 1 or 2 of reset.  Suddenly, 80 players from Knit and Bish switched sides, I guess to get the free perks.  ENY went from 8 to 29 in about 3 minutes.  Fights all over the map degenerated into hordes of Rooks on single bases, which were then countered by both of the other countries upping 262's en masse.  The actual fighting dropped to nothing...and turned into a slaughter.  I left the arena and went to the other.

It's really frustrating going from a great time having great fights to flying P40's against 262's and Tempests.

Inevitably, someone will say, just switch sides.  I like flying with my squadron.  If I was freelance, I would switch in a heartbeat.  I'm just saying that the fights would be better if we limited the "mass exodus" of switchers close to a reset.