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Offline USCH

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2010, 10:09:28 PM »
I think your misunderstanding. I'm all for the room, just not fighting U.S. aircraft Vs. U.S. aircraft. That to me is way off the intention of axis Vs allies.

I have yet to see anyone in the room today after they got it working. I was pumped up to have more great fights like yesterday. I haven't seen anyone  who wants to fly the what is basically the same 2 aircraft.

I have yet to see anyone chime in and say they love the room and have been in flying all day.

I'm not complining I'm just saying i had a great day yesterday (as did a good 6 or more guys) we need to keep that rolling.
I had 7 guys on line today and had we had yesterdays room i bet i could have gotten them to fly. After telling them it was P51/F4u1d vs. f4u4's with an alt cap of 8k they asked if the CM's were crazy....

So insted of upping today's numbers from yesterday we got a big ole goose egg.

I applaud the effort but i just don't see it being popular with the lack of GV spawns and lack aircraft.

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #136 on: January 14, 2010, 11:58:57 PM »
The Current "Soccer war" campaign is really a refreshing new campaign that I have never seen in the AvsA arena before......

kudos to those who thought of it,  I suspect there will be just as much fun had with this setup , as their is with most others.......

just some people will not understand the concept of it all......

Thanks for hosting this setup........

you'd think if every player read the posted thread writeup in the AvsA forum about this "Soccer War Campaign" and read about the history behind it......then they might be able to understand and comprehend the reasoning for this setup.......

then again maybe not........... but if I am correct, it really is the only time F4U's actually fought F4U's in real life....... so that would truly make it one of them...it's the pilot not the plane ideology  :airplane: ' ,* . ' ' * ,     :airplane: ( <---blue plane shooting at a blue plane  ROFL )
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2010, 08:57:56 AM »
ideology  :airplane: ' ,* . ' ' * ,     :airplane: ( <---blue plane shooting at a blue plane  ROFL )

Cherry picker!!!!!!!!!!  :furious

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #138 on: January 15, 2010, 09:19:25 AM »
USCH, maybe you should fly with more of an open mind. maybe the cm's are trying new things to encourage people to come in and try it out. not all scenarios work for everyone.

luckily you have 5 other arena's to choose from. its just a little experimentation and i dont think its a bad thing. settings can always be changed if they dont work out. its not a perfect WW2 in the AVA. if it were, you would have more crappy weather and people complaining that they cant see the targets from 25k which is the way it really was. you would also have a shotgun mounted on your computer screen and when you died in the game the shotgun would go off and it would really be game over! :)

all im trying to say is just give it a try, play it with an open mind and feel free to make suggestions. the CM's are pretty good at listening.

This is very true. Can't please everyone all the time. While the setup is not to your liking this round, it is to someone else. The room will chnge again.... that is the beauty of it.



Which brings to question.... how often is the room going to change setups?  <S>


.....but if I am correct, it really is the only time F4U's actually fought F4U's in real life....... so that would truly make it one of them...it's the pilot not the plane ideology  :airplane: ' ,* . ' ' * ,     :airplane: ( <---blue plane shooting at a blue plane  ROFL )

 :rofl
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #139 on: January 15, 2010, 09:50:58 AM »
This is one of those set-ups that might bring in some people who've never tried it before and expose them to the different settings etc, as it has a couple of the most popular late war planes.

When I first starting promoting the AvA on Mondays, a set-up was put in that I didn't think was very even and not the one I wanted to try and hook my squad and other first time AvA players with.

Rather than air my concerns publicly on the forum, I chose to PM the staff.

Well, of course they didn't change the set-up just for me and as it turned out it was a lot of fun and though some agreed with me, a lot of people did not share my opinion.

I'm glad I addressed it that way, because I might have influenced some people with my opinion and brought negativity into the equation for nothing.

It worked out OK and the next week a set-up more to my liking was put in.

The rotation of the set-ups varies, usually changes weekly, but when a "mini war" scenario is going, it stays up longer.

Even then, they will sometimes take a break and put in a "meanwhile on the other side of the world" set-up for a week.

The last two weeks was an exception in that they kept the eastern front scenario up for an extra week because it had some of the same match-ups from FSO and it was good practice for that event.

The second week they enabled additional FSO planes.

Normally, it would change every week.

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #140 on: January 15, 2010, 10:33:08 AM »
This is one of those set-ups that might bring in some people who've never tried it before and expose them to the different settings etc, as it has a couple of the most popular late war planes.

When I first starting promoting the AvA on Mondays, a set-up was put in that I didn't think was very even and not the one I wanted to try and hook my squad and other first time AvA players with.

Rather than air my concerns publicly on the forum, I chose to PM the staff.

Well, of course they didn't change the set-up just for me and as it turned out it was a lot of fun and though some agreed with me, a lot of people did not share my opinion.

I'm glad I addressed it that way, because I might have influenced some people with my opinion and brought negativity into the equation for nothing.

It worked out OK and the next week a set-up more to my liking was put in.

The rotation of the set-ups varies, usually changes weekly, but when a "mini war" scenario is going, it stays up longer.

Even then, they will sometimes take a break and put in a "meanwhile on the other side of the world" set-up for a week.

The last two weeks was an exception in that they kept the eastern front scenario up for an extra week because it had some of the same match-ups from FSO and it was good practice for that event.

The second week they enabled additional FSO planes.

Normally, it would change every week.

jimson

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #141 on: January 15, 2010, 10:45:56 AM »
You do have a point there.

I suppose it's worth noting that as strongly as one might feel about something (like a particular AvA set-up) others may have a totally different opinion that is quite valid.

Something I am learning in my old age.

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #142 on: January 15, 2010, 11:26:43 AM »
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #143 on: January 15, 2010, 11:50:25 AM »
We can't please everyone and we post setups that offer a snapshot of history, and the Soccer War is one of those rare instances where we have the aircraft to simulate the event.  I also want to do the Israel War of Independence, where a lot of the equipment was leftover WWII fighters, bombers and tanks.  Again, a timeline in history we can re-create.

That said, yes, the arena is called AvA for a reason - but originally it was the Combat Theatre. 

ALSO - there is no reason to smack-talk the AvA or the admins, right guys? We're all volunteers, or did some of you forget this fact?
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #144 on: January 15, 2010, 11:52:21 AM »
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #145 on: January 15, 2010, 11:55:32 AM »
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #146 on: January 15, 2010, 01:45:01 PM »

I'll just fly the F4U4 at 200ft and watch as the other side killshoots eachother not having tags :aok (3 F4u's fighting witch one is the bad guy lol)

IIRC friendly icons don't disappear, so if you are shooting at an
f4U with no icons you are probably OK.

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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #147 on: January 16, 2010, 08:25:36 AM »
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Re: Preaching to the choir
« Reply #148 on: January 16, 2010, 10:41:50 AM »
At one time you could show up there and find quite a few folks. Fights were usually pretty good. It never had the numbers to accept full squads making it home though.

Same thing that killed AVA is currently at work in MW. Sizeable squad tilting numbers drastically. For instance the other night I got on to find 14 or 15 knights capturing bases from 1 bish and 2 rooks. All of the knights were of one squad. SOARS took a lot of grief for doing the same in EW.

This now a common occurance in MW....... Starting to drag MW down
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