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Dornier 335
« on: January 15, 2010, 03:45:56 PM »
I personally think this would be great for the game, for late war arena's. It was the fasted prop engined fighter of WW2 reaching speeds of around 474 mph, even with a broken engine it could still reach 350 mph.  The armament isn't bad either     * 1 × 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 103 cannon (as forward engine-mounted Motorkanone)
    * 2 × 20 mm MG 151 cannons
    * Up to 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bomb load
# Combat radius: 721 mi (1,160 km (half load))
# Service ceiling: 37,400 ft (11,400 m)
 I think this would make a great perk plane
« Last Edit: January 15, 2010, 03:55:05 PM by legoman »
Would seem my only decent plane

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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 04:00:42 PM »
That never equipped any squadrons.
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 04:07:09 PM »
here we go again.
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 04:22:44 PM »
I'd love to see it. But it doesn't meet requirements.
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 04:53:36 PM »
what do you mean by requirements?
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2010, 05:00:56 PM »
AH simulates planes & GV that fought in WWII. The Do 335 did not.
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2010, 05:25:26 PM »
Actually it did see combat and it did record at least 1 kill. However it was never deployed operationally in squadron strength and to the best of my knowledge the only actual combat was an armed pre production model being flown by a test pilot in the final months of the war...

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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2010, 05:26:22 PM »
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2010, 05:29:41 PM »
Actually it did see combat and it did record at least 1 kill.

Source?
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2010, 05:49:06 PM »
I thought the only encounter with the Do 335 was when French ace Pierre Clostermann leading a flight of Tempests intercepted a lone Do 335 at tree top level that was able to out run the Tempests and escape in April of 1945.


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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 06:41:33 PM »
I thought the only encounter with the Do 335 was when French ace Pierre Clostermann leading a flight of Tempests intercepted a lone Do 335 at tree top level that was able to out run the Tempests and escape in April of 1945.


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I agree that it's 'service length in WWII' does not warrant it to be added to the game, but here is the source of Ak-Ak's comment...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_335

"French ace Pierre Clostermann claimed the first Allied combat encounter with a Pfeil in April 1945.[2][page needed] Leading a flight of four Hawker Tempests from No. 3 Squadron RAF over northern Germany, he intercepted a lone Do 335 flying at maximum speed at treetop level. Detecting the British aircraft, the German pilot reversed course to evade. Despite the Tempest's considerable speed, the RAF fighters were not able to catch up or even get into firing position."
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2010, 07:01:27 PM »
There are two reports I read but can't find an active link to at the moment. One involved a leading night time ace who died shortly after the war who flew the Do-335 as a night time interceptor (prototype). The other involved a test pilot involved in a fight with two Russian fighters shortly before the end of the war. I know I've seen multiple photo's of the DO-335 in winter (snow) in an article describing field tests for air to ground and low altitude use vs Russians but don't recall the specifics

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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 07:13:24 PM »
There are two reports I read but can't find an active link to at the moment. One involved a leading night time ace who died shortly after the war who flew the Do-335 as a night time interceptor (prototype).

Kurt Welter, whose deeds in the last days are clouded with myths and rumours. The only thing that is assured is that he did fly successful nightfighter sorties with the Me 262, but the number of kills is not known.

I know I've seen multiple photo's of the DO-335 in winter (snow) in an article describing field tests

Erprobungskommando 335, which filed a not so enthusiastic report about the Do 335 in January, listing several technical problems and shortcomings. According to them, the 335 was not ready for operational service yet.


BTW, I'm rather sceptical about all claims made by Closterman ;)
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 07:25:43 PM »
The only kill was the night fighter variant, IIRC.

Still did not have squadron service, thus not making the list.
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Re: Dornier 335
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2010, 07:35:08 PM »
Kurt Welter, whose deeds in the last days are clouded with myths and rumours. The only thing that is assured is that he did fly successful nightfighter sorties with the Me 262, but the number of kills is not known.

Erprobungskommando 335, which filed a not so enthusiastic report about the Do 335 in January, listing several technical problems and shortcomings. According to them, the 335 was not ready for operational service yet.


BTW, I'm rather sceptical about all claims made by Closterman ;)


According to the book "Big Show" (which that part in Wiki is taken from), the encounter was never verified.

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