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Offline Threeup

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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2010, 04:53:40 AM »
I fly what I want to fly and I want to fly Spits.
Only the ENY decides which model I fly and I don't care to fly a XIV because most fights start at 10K or less, so there's no starting advantage there.
The Seafire just keeps me honest in the E stakes whereas the XVI is a lot more forgiving. I just like the way Spits feel - They do most things pretty well but;
A N1KI will out turn me and has twice as many cannon shells as I do.
A Pony and an LA7 can extend away from me usually and have the abilty to dictate the fight with that speed and ultimately decide if they will fight.
A Zeke or a Hurri will make my Spit look like a carrier in the turn stakes and have superior ammo loadouts.
A P-38 has that stalling thing where they come down and smash me.
A Corsair has that "hang on the prop" act going and I get belted on the way down.
A Yak can out roll me.
190's and 109's have no gun convergence issues to speak of and "laser shoot" from any distance.
So flying a Spit is all about compromise and playing to moderate strengths and not getting sucked in to the other planes fight style - fight your own fight.
That being said - the Noob and Spixteen Noob comments are fairly tame and lame and probably wasted on all but the most insecure of people - save your fingers - the impressionable will probably change planes - the rest don't care.
There's no easy plane, but there are hard planes and crew who master those have my admiration but "he who has the most fun wins" and some nights I feel like a gold medallist.
end of rant - stay cool.
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2010, 05:57:26 AM »
I fly what I want to fly and I want to fly Spits.
Only the ENY decides which model I fly and I don't care to fly a XIV because most fights start at 10K or less, so there's no starting advantage there.
The Seafire just keeps me honest in the E stakes whereas the XVI is a lot more forgiving. I just like the way Spits feel - They do most things pretty well but;
A N1KI will out turn me and has twice as many cannon shells as I do.
A Pony and an LA7 can extend away from me usually and have the abilty to dictate the fight with that speed and ultimately decide if they will fight.
A Zeke or a Hurri will make my Spit look like a carrier in the turn stakes and have superior ammo loadouts.
A P-38 has that stalling thing where they come down and smash me.
A Corsair has that "hang on the prop" act going and I get belted on the way down.
A Yak can out roll me.
190's and 109's have no gun convergence issues to speak of and "laser shoot" from any distance.
So flying a Spit is all about compromise and playing to moderate strengths and not getting sucked in to the other planes fight style - fight your own fight.
That being said - the Noob and Spixteen Noob comments are fairly tame and lame and probably wasted on all but the most insecure of people - save your fingers - the impressionable will probably change planes - the rest don't care.
There's no easy plane, but there are hard planes and crew who master those have my admiration but "he who has the most fun wins" and some nights I feel like a gold medallist.
end of rant - stay cool.
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Pretty sure a spitXIV will fight very well above 15k... VERY well
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2010, 07:00:44 AM »
lol threeup, good rant  :cheers:
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2010, 04:12:43 PM »
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So flying a Spit is all about compromise and playing to moderate strengths and not getting sucked in to the other planes fight style - fight your own fight.
That being said - the Noob and Spixteen Noob comments are fairly tame and lame and probably wasted on all but the most insecure of people - save your fingers - the impressionable will probably change planes - the rest don't care.
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Yes.

Thought surprisingly some veteran sticks in this game haven't gotten this very simple point. I wonder if there exists a correlation between a players skill and his ability to understand simple concepts.  :cheers:
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2010, 06:11:21 PM »
I fly what I want to fly and I want to fly Spits.
Only the ENY decides which model I fly and I don't care to fly a XIV because most fights start at 10K or less, so there's no starting advantage there.
The Seafire just keeps me honest in the E stakes whereas the XVI is a lot more forgiving. I just like the way Spits feel - They do most things pretty well but;
A N1KI will out turn me and has twice as many cannon shells as I do.
A Pony and an LA7 can extend away from me usually and have the abilty to dictate the fight with that speed and ultimately decide if they will fight.
A Zeke or a Hurri will make my Spit look like a carrier in the turn stakes and have superior ammo loadouts.
A P-38 has that stalling thing where they come down and smash me.
A Corsair has that "hang on the prop" act going and I get belted on the way down.
A Yak can out roll me.
190's and 109's have no gun convergence issues to speak of and "laser shoot" from any distance.
So flying a Spit is all about compromise and playing to moderate strengths and not getting sucked in to the other planes fight style - fight your own fight.
That being said - the Noob and Spixteen Noob comments are fairly tame and lame and probably wasted on all but the most insecure of people - save your fingers - the impressionable will probably change planes - the rest don't care.
There's no easy plane, but there are hard planes and crew who master those have my admiration but "he who has the most fun wins" and some nights I feel like a gold medallist.
end of rant - stay cool.
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2010, 07:41:01 PM »

Perk the spits all u want all the good spit dweebs have lots of perkies to use :).


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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2010, 07:46:22 PM »
I'm quite sure others have said this many times over (probably even me somewhere in this thread): there is no more capable aircraft than the Spit16.  The only real weakness is its ability to keep up in a fast dive of the those aircraft who run best while besting the bulk of the aircraft out there in a dogfight.  

Its turns very well; it rolls very well; it climbs very well; it accelerates very well; it has more than enough firepower; it carries 1k worth of ord (3 dead  gv's); it has great visibility; and has above average speed, and it holds E extremely well.  If it is anywhere near the "speed demons" at the start of a sprintor run-a-thon the runner is dead meat.

There are planes with less across the board abilities but are perked, the Spit14 comes to mind right away.  The Spit14 has a wee bit a speed and a wee bit a climb advantage over the Spit16.  If anything, the Spit 16 should have a small perk (?), and the Spit 14 should have lessor than it had now (down to a 7?)
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2010, 07:46:31 PM »
Perk the spits all u want all the good spit dweebs have lots of perkies to use :).


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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2010, 08:15:21 PM »
I'm quite sure others have said this many times over (probably even me somewhere in this thread): there is no more capable aircraft than the Spit16.  The only real weakness is its ability to keep up in a fast dive of the those aircraft who run best while besting the bulk of the aircraft out there in a dogfight.  

Its turns very well; it rolls very well; it climbs very well; it accelerates very well; it has more than enough firepower; it carries 1k worth of ord (3 dead  gv's); it has great visibility; and has above average speed, and it holds E extremely well.  If it is anywhere near the "speed demons" at the start of a sprintor run-a-thon the runner is dead meat.

There are planes with less across the board abilities but are perked, the Spit14 comes to mind right away.  The Spit14 has a wee bit a speed and a wee bit a climb advantage over the Spit16.  If anything, the Spit 16 should have a small perk (?), and the Spit 14 should have lessor than it had now (down to a 7?)
the spiXIV is perked due to its ability to fight at altitude...the higher the better for it... rivals all of the high alt fighters cept maybe the 152 and jets
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2010, 08:36:54 PM »
That they do, but the spits will most likely never be perked.

Again, no one has presented any valid evidence as to why the Spitfire Mk XVI should be perked, let alone how the Spitfire Mk XVI has unbalanced the game play in any fashion. 

The same whines you hear about the Spitfire Mk XVI were the same whines years ago about the La-7, N1K2, P-51D and the FW 190D-9. 

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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #250 on: April 27, 2010, 08:54:14 PM »

190's and 109's have no gun convergence issues to speak of and "laser shoot" from any distance.



That's some good drugs you must be smoking friend.  :rofl

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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #251 on: April 27, 2010, 11:51:59 PM »
If they gave the Spit XVI 150 octane fuel I'd support perking it.  If they gave the Spit XIV 150 octane fuel I'd support keeping it perked.
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #252 on: April 28, 2010, 12:01:05 AM »
if you dont want to be disturbed dont look down at the pic :aok




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Pretty sure a spitXIV will fight very well above 15k... VERY well
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #253 on: April 28, 2010, 12:10:08 AM »
Spits are easy mde.
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That's some good drugs you must be smoking friend. 

I'll just sit here and watch from the corner,carry on.

Oh come on!!
Surely you can use more brain cells and generate a worthwhile reply!
Seriously - you consider the two little gems above input into a discussion?

The 109K4 carries a devastating 30mm Mk 108 cannons (65 rounds) mounted to fire through the propeller spinner.
Standard to the 190A5 are a pair of cowl mounted 7.9mm MG17's with 900 rounds/gun.

Where's the convergence?
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Re: Perking Spit 16
« Reply #254 on: April 28, 2010, 12:35:08 AM »
Spitfires are not noobish, they can do everything pretty well, but the skill needed to fly them properly is no less than any other aircraft. In fact I found the F4U easier than the Spitfire lol. And yet they are regarded as "Pro" rides.

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