P38 Gear Extension Speed

[EskimoJoe]

Nevermind,

 I.F.

[FLS]

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[AWwrgwy]

Thank you for your contribution.  You have added a new dimension which may resolve my question.  Your saying that the noise heard when the gear is lowered at 175MPH is not related to stress.  Why isn’t that noise heard when the gear is lowered at 150MPH.

You assumption that I want to lower my gear at a higher speed to use it as a speed break is wrong. I am not asking to be able to extend the gear at speeds above 175MPH. 

See above.  FLS beat me.   

What I'm trying to say about some "sounds" in game, such as "Stress", is they are attempting to replace the sensation you would feel flying with the gear down at 175mph or greater.  Buffet(?), what you would feel at high speed or approaching a stall.  "Seat of the Pants" type sensations.

Yes, it is "Stress" as well as the gear will come off at 201mph as you've stated but there are a few sounds that are there as more than just sounds.

(Does gear breaking above 200mph conform to historical accuracy?)

You need to figure compromises have to be made in translating flight from real life to a computer.  How about "as accurate as they can get it"?


wrongway

[Traveler]

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[Raptor]

You wished for something that was already in AH...

If HiTech finds merit in information players provide about current models, they fix it.

IE: AKAK was trying to find information that the P38L should have been heavier, instead Pyro found that the P38G was missing 500lb in AH that shold have been there.

[LLogann]

Wow................  We have nothing better to talk about?


(friggin SAPPER's)

[Murdr]

IE: AKAK was trying to find information that the P38L should have been heavier, instead Pyro found that the P38G was missing 500lb in AH that shold have been there.

No, Murdr was searching for solid weight data showing the difference between our L and J and found a discrepancy in the G weight, which Pyro identified and fixed.

[TwinBoom]

No, Murdr was searching for solid weight data showing the difference between our L and J and found a discrepancy in the G weight, which Pyro identified and fixed.

yes and im still pissed at you for adding weight to my bird 

[Raptor]

I couldn't remember if it was you or akak.... so I had a 50% shot in the dark

[LLogann]

Two fine men that always have a valid point to make......................... .  They may as well be mirror images!   

I couldn't remember if it was you or akak.... so I had a 50% shot in the dark

[Traveler]

See Rule #4

[Soulyss]

If what you say is true that the stress sound at 175 is used to convey buffet ..then that buffet should also be there at 150 and below.  It’s not.  I think it’s purpose is clearly to convey aircraft damage.

The only thing is that I don't think it does damage the gear at 175mph has I tried to explain earlier, I flew with the gear down at that speed for 10 whole minutes and suffered no apparent damage at all.  As near as I can find there is nothing in the flight model that prevents or prohibits anyone landing a P-38 from extending the gear at 175mph in the process of landing.


Now ponder this, if you were to program a sound that would warn a player that he/she is getting a little fast to have the gear down.  And say that the speed at which critical failure were to occur is set at 200mph (as it seems to be), would it make sense to have that audible cue start at 200mph?  Or at say... 150, or 160mph and give the player a nice margin for error or heads up to look at the speedometer in the event that he forgot to raise his gear on take off?

[Traveler]

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[2ADoc]

Traveler, I have one question. 

How many WW2 planes have you flown?


I myself have flown all the "L" birds, C-47s, DC-3s,Beech 18s, T-6s, A Yak-3 allison powered, A few P-51s, a Sonya replica"that would be a Jap bird" , along with a Zero and a Kate replica, I have flown a BT-13, 17 and a 19.  I have also flown an SE-5a Replica, along with a Fokker DR.VII.  I have more tailwheel time than I have milkstool time,"Tricyclegear" Means the wheel is in the front.  I have flown everything from pietenpol aircampers to Smith-Swarengensen Aerostars.  I have also flown a Ryan PT-22, the Cadet Killer, and have walked away from it, I have flown more WW2 planes than most have seen.  I realize that you are a CFI, and have some amount of hours teaching, YOU of all people should realize that this is a game.  The guys have done a great job of modeling the planes.  Have you even ever shot an NDB approach, I know it is all GPS now.  Get out of the books, My dad had 6 Piper Tomahawks, and not a one flew the same, we also had a Swift, and a Cessna 195 with a Continental W670, And a few 172'S along with a Superhawk.  I have flown Barons and Cessna 421's to AT-13s.  I have time in a Pv-2 Opps Howard.  I am sorry Skuzzy Rule 14 if you must, I want to know where this guy gets off.  The AH crew has done a great job on the flight Modeling for all the planes.  If you dont like the AH modeling go to IL-2 or go to FSX. 

[Traveler]

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